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So if they actually implemented E2E encryption like they said (last time they were called out on lying about it), how exactly would they even collect this information?
You'd need to MITM the calls for it to even be possible, which raises other issues...
Technically they can collect whatever they need, before encrypting to send from E to the other E, and send, with or without encryption, to their servers. The "E"s are the devices on each end, not necessarily the users mouths and ears.
You can send your typed credit card to that site using SSL encryption, but the number can be captured by a keylogger or a screen capture before being encrypted.
True, but in that case you don't actually have real E2E encryption anymore, as it would need to be sending copies the data to a tertiary destination for processing by AI. The application itself would be the malware (which, TBF is kinda accurate for Zoom anyhow)
E2E just means it's encrypted from end to end, iow, it's not decrypted in the middle of the way.
If I was using an E2E communication application, I, for one wouldn't automatically assume that meant it was not eavesdropping.