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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (11 children)

    Yeah that's just radarr devs not actually packaging the thing.

    Compare the nixos instructions. Which, mind you, is not a distro for beginners, the faint of heart, or generally people who are neither functional programmers nor devops, but that's how easy it is when you package shit properly.

    [–] JasSmith 2 points 5 days ago (10 children)

    Yeah that’s just radarr devs not actually packaging the thing.

    It's not about blame. From a user's perspective, it doesn't matter who is to blame. The bottom line is that Linux is harder to use in a lot of scenarios. Torvalds was right: it's going to take Valve to statically link everything and force developers to use the same libraries. Then it's trivially easy for devs to maintain a .elf distribution which can be executed across all Valve-compliant Linux distros.

    [–] tiddy 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    I think youre misrepresenting what Linux is supposed to be, it runs most Walmart displays, kiosks, medical systems, and servers.

    Its just now branching into a more usable desktop environment, but its going to do this the right way.

    As time as shown is the windows way is incredibly bloated and unstable - I wouldn't dream of running a critical server off of it, nor even a non-critical one like radarr. Undocumented issues are just part of the game in the windows world.

    Taking the easy route will kinda by definition be easier at first.

    Though ngl I find it incredibly easier to enter

    nix-shell -p radarr
    

    than to navigate to a webpage, download and install an arbitrary executable, give it absolute admin privellages to the ebtirety of my computer to let it 'do its thing' for a bit, and be SOL if that doesnt all go perfectly.

    [–] JasSmith 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    nix-shell -p radarr

    I don't think this works on most distros. Even if it does, isn't this only installing Radarr to a temporary shell? Either way, CLI should never be required to install software. Not if the intent is consumer software. You do appear to make the argument that it's not consumer software, which is fair. It's just different from a lot of other claims about it being consumer software. So you can forgive people for thinking it's meant for regular people. We should definitely make that clearer.

    [–] tiddy 1 points 5 days ago

    Nix package manager can be installed on (almost) any distro, I'm running it in an android termux right now for example. Side note if you want a fun project for an old phone you could probably run radarr this way, I'm using it for Garage s3 storage.

    Without diving into the juicy details too much, the command does temporarily install it - in a way that its essentially free to reinstall anytime. For permanent setups you just have to add it to a text file, that could use a bit of a face life to be honest. Though comparitevly this would be trivial to implement vs the meat of the package manager itself

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