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[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Every corp you work at has a dark side. Maybe not Lockheed Martin level of destruction.

  • My current job, we build systems to get people to spend more for things they don't need.

  • My last job, we provided technology to "free speech" folks and looked the other way unless legally obligated to take it down

  • The nonprofit i worked for spent 80% of their time and energy just for funding. Like $2mil a year, and 1.6mil went to paying staff.

Sometimes jobs frame it to look like it's a positive.

  • I worked at one company that "gave opportunities" to offshore engineers because they were a fraction the cost of Americans.

  • Another company outsourced our graphic design to people on Fiverr to help fund "freelancers", and then repurpose the work for million dollar ad campaigns.

And for me, I just constantly think of what the line is and how much of it I can cross to feed my kids.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Very rational take. You learn entering the world that every company has a dark side, and every person has a line, but that line shifts.

Personally I'd avoid Lockheed, but when it comes to paying the mortgage, the bank is surprisingly not very amenable to me not having a job. I'd love to avoid working at any bad company, but I'd probably have to sell my house and live out of a studio, and my family would suffer for it.

So I give some graces. For example, people shame folks who work at amazon, but Amazon pays the bills. What I personally have changed to is judging people for being gung ho about a company, happy with what the company is doing, or are they just there as a job. If you're in accounting and you just loooove working for Amazon and think they do no wrong, then yes I judge a lot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank you for this incredibly rational take.

What I personally have changed to is judging people for being gung ho about a company, happy with what the company is doing, or are they just there as a job. If you're in accounting and you just loooove working for Amazon and think they do no wrong, then yes I judge a lot

This. I'll usually get along fine with my fellow working class folks in the trenches wherever I end up, and I'll make friends with the cool managers even if they're managers.

Few people are excited to be forced into a corrupt and awful system to justify their existence.

But more often than not, they're the True Believers(TM) that are so utterly brain-warped into thinking some job actually cares about them, and make it part of their identity to "represent the brand". I give these simps a wiiiide berth.

When it's a grunt employee with that mindset, it's even more pathetic.

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