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Windows 11 market share falls despite Microsoft ad blitz | Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market (www.theregister.com)

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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] [email protected] 372 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (47 children)

People found out about the Win10 IoT LTSC version, which Microsoft alleges to be supporting for 10 more years.

It comes with basically zero of the M$ bloat that everyone hates, as well. It's just Windows.

I just installed it on my father's new (old) laptop, because he is not ready for Linux yet -- possibly ever.

It has no:

Cortana
Copilot
Windows Media Player
OneDrive
Office 365 Nag
Candy crush, Solitaire collection, etc.
Ads and nags on the lock screen
"Finish setting up your device and create a Microsoft Account!!!" nag every X number of bootups
Xbox Game Bar
Microsoft Store
Etc.

It does come with Edge.

Because it does not have the Microsoft Store you have to manually install anything that comes as a store app from the command line. I was taken by surprise that the Duckduckgo browser is packaged this way. But you can still do it. Normal programs install just fine.

Yes, you can use it for gaming.

Edit: I guess I forgot to drop the obligatory link to https://massgrave.dev/ , which is how I found out about this and got it running. Also hosted there is a tool that allows you to... license... various Microsoft products including your shiny new Win10 IoT install.

[–] Codilingus 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Just adding that 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC is also super solid and great for gaming, ~~no bullshit installed, just Edge + Defender~~. I disable Edge- instead of uninstalling- with a tool that just breaks it, since Edge always gets installed again eventually.

I got it from that same site, been problem free for months now. I only went with 11since my 5800X3D is still fairly new.

Edit: Fine, no bullshit other than Edge + Defender.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Does this version of Windows 11 feel as snappy as normal Windows 10? And do the fans randomly flare up like on my installation of normal Windows 11?

[–] SailorMoss 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe it’s all in my head, but I tried it a while back and it felt less snappy than clean windows 10 but more snappy than stock windows 11. It also retains a lot of the annoyances of stock windows 11.

Unfortunately I can’t use it because I have a WMR VR headset and it’s unsupported on the IoT and LTSC.

There’s a YouTube channel called memories tech tips and he’s developing a script that you can add to your ISO that will have a similar effect to the LTSC. That in combination with Chris Titus techs ultimate windows utility after first boot makes setting things up much easier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This sounds nice, thanks for that information.

How do you know stuff is particularly "unsupported" on a same os but different build? Other then errors of course?

In my head it is the same os just different blend so wonder why it wouldnt work. Reckon maybe some missing system components. Though can copy those over?

Anyway was curious if you knew! Thanks

[–] SailorMoss 3 points 2 weeks ago

It’s basically just Microsoft being shit heads on their development of the Windows Mixed reality drivers that creates that specific edge case. Hopefully the open source monado drivers will be a good replacement eventually. Most everything else should work fine.

I only know because I had windows 10 LTSC when I bought my headset and tried to get it working and found reddit threads with the same issue. I tested the windows 11 IoT when it came out because I hoped it would support my headset then I found out they are dropping support next year.

There needs to be a class action lawsuit about this to either open-source the drivers or to refund all those who purchased WMR devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unsupported hardware

Arcane incantations to get your system to look like a system

Still bloated

At this point, I’m assuming you don’t like yourself very much.

[–] SailorMoss 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, I would like to switch to Linux but my VR headset is holding me back. Linux does have its own annoyances. I would probably still have to virtualize windows because of productivity software I need.

I also use an engineering sample CPU so uhhh… I’ve learned to stop worrying and love the jank.