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as far as i am aware protonmail is pretty popular. I am hosting my own mail infrastructure but am considering to switch in the long run
I'm hearing about proton but they feel very scummy. Is proton(vpn and mail) actually privacy centered, doesn't log and doesn't sell data?
While I tought about self hosting an email, but doesn't that come with lots of problems, like you can't garantee five nines of uptime, or someone emails you cp, or websites not accepting custom domains? I also heard it's easly hackable.
May I ask what triggers thr scummy feeling for you?
It looks way to much like big corp. And money corrupts. Why do I get a calendar, a vaul, a vpn, and a mail service for free. I know it's limited services, but for free? I feel like I must be the product.
I get when it's a non-profit, or living off donations, but Proton is either of those
This is exactly the reason that Proton became a non-profit:
https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation
Proton is still a for-profit company. However, there is now the non-profit Proton Foundation that is the largest shareholder of the Proton company (not necessarily majority shareholder).
Plus, non-profits are not guaranteed to be positive. See OpenAI for example.
Edit: Grammar
I don't think the free accounts cost them a whole lot. You only get 1GB of mail space, and the free versions have minimal features (e.g. you can only create one email filter). They make their money on paid accounts, which seems legit to me.
That's fair. Though the free service is more of an infinite trial tbh
To be fair, the Proton Foundation is a non-profit and is the majority shareholder of Proton.
The foundation is the largest shareholder, but Proton has not specified whether it controls a majority.