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Protesting is meant to cause friction and upset people. If no one was bothered when people protested it wouldn't be doing it's job.
Shutting the subreddit down was meant to disrupt you.
Permanently? Screwing the community that the mods are supposed to represent? Because a company wants to charge for the IP it owns?
I know what a protest is. This is more like a bunch of power-hungry children with no foresight crying about something they don't like with no regard for the masses.
It's been 2 days.
least impatient Redditor
reddit owns only the access to content. but the content is owned by the users.
You could have an entirely open and free api but if theres no content, whats the point
I speak not as a normal member of the PoE community or a mod, but it is my understanding that moderators volunteer their time and energy to the communities they handle. Should reddit be making decisions that affect a moderator's ability to do what they need to efficiently and effectively, it is understandable that some may decide to shut down without consulting the users. You seem to be directing anger at the mods when your outrage should be directed more at reddit itself. PoE is but one of many subs that will be negatively impacted with the changes reddit will implement. A lot of information will be lost with people abandoning the platform for alternatives. It may be something you'll need to accept as users and moderators flee.
So you think that a group of people that represent thousands should simply make decisions without consulting the community they represent? This isn't any different from politicians creating laws to make their own lives easier, while basically ignoring the constituents. If they no longer have the time to volunteer due to the changes, others will step up and eventually find ways to become more efficient. This isn't affecting reddit's revenue per the news. The only ones suffering are the masses currently.
I have zero issues with a company increasing the cost to access their IP.
Represent?
Were they ever elected by the subs for the position? Were they working for us? Did they ever speak for us?
You seem to be mistaking a internet forum for a... democratic government, I guess?
Mods were just applying a set of rules to maintain order and a (minimum) of civility. It was up to reddit to maintain communities if they really wanted, and they simply gave everyone the finger.
You might want to read more about the whole afair, as the fact that all the blackouts seem to be "just a nuisance" made up by mods, and you had to come here to complain show that you did not really understand it.
Your last sentence proves you don't actually understand what's going on.
The 3rd party developers actually agree that Reddit should charge for their API calls. What they, and many others, don't agree with is the exorbitant pricing and timeframe they announced. They're actions don't speak of a company who actually cares for the community that the reason for it's existence.
It's a for-profit company. Again, I see no issues with their changes.
The way you react here just makes me more confident that its a good idea to close the subreddit permanently and make a new instance with less user here. you have zero issues with all those changes because you don't spend volunteer hours for moderation and hence you definitely have less to say on that particular topic imo. Also it would be kind of cool to show some kind of cohesion instead of bitching around here.
No, I'm not equivocating this with political responsibility. I'm neutral, not positive, on moderators making these sorts of decisions themselves, but I am presenting context as to why it is understandable they make that decision, and how your upsetedness seems misdirected. This isn't just about cost either. Many moderators and users don't only use 3p to skirt ads or avoid cost. It also provides ease of use and helpful tools, especially in instances of volunteering to moderate subs with "thousands".
People will step up, if the current moderators cannot find ways to deal with it. Their actions were not at all understandable. Just because a job is made harder doesn't mean you say "fuck it all, we're gonna make our own casino with blackjack and hookers."