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Y'know, I had a moment of reflection while reading some of the impressions people had about Space Marine 2. Found one specifically praising it because "it has no wokeness."
I don't get it... I mean, this setting is clearly a dystopian sci-fi horror where pretty much everyone is either an asshole, or cannon fodder, right? What the hell does it matter what gender said characters identify as? Why would it matter if we had all types of Space Marines (yeah, yeah, lore, yadda-yadda, but c'mon...the Rubicon Primaris itself contradicts a whole lotta lore... it's 40k, its lore is as stable as melted cheese), or trans characters, or agender, or anything else?
It's one of those situations when one realises they like the same thing a lot of very unpleasant people like. And even though the reasons for liking said thing are diametrical opposites, it still leaves one with that sort of... icky feeling... Speaking personally, I almost feel guilty for loving 40k when seeing how a lot of assholes genuinely simp for Big E's Genocidal Utopia...
These sort of opinions should just be entirely ignored. They are from unserious people either celebrating or raging at imaginary non-problems. "Woke" in it's modern usage by right leaning culture war dorks is entirely undefined, from including PoC to acknowledging queer people exist.
So, I feel you on getting the ick from sharing the same space as these bigots, but don't let them take away hobbies from you because of their narrow minded hate.
Yeah it's the same when you have a complaint that aligns with the bigots. Like the female custodes debacle. I don't care what gender the marines are, but I do think GW handled it poorly.
If they had just had... Idk the mechanicus find some relic that allowed women recruits to survive the upgrade to space marine, primaris, and custodes, and had them deliver a sick 'more bodies for the war' line, it would've been better.
Saying that does feel icky because there are people who are just against women being marines and custodes. I'm not. If GW did it better, I'd have nothing to say and the bigots would still be bigots.
Very, very good highlight! They did both the fans and the concept itself a disservice by introducing it through a hand-wavey half a paragraph's worth of retcon...
But that just tracks with James Borkshop's slew of highly questionable decisions as of late. Imagine how much new blood (and fresh cash) they would've drawn in with a proper expansion to the story which would open up augmentation to basically anyone. How hard is it to attribute it as a modification of the process made by Cawl, who's already at near Mary-Sue levels of big-brainedness? And it'd add more flavour to Guilliman's rather rational take on doing things as well! Plus it'd reinforce the long-term tragedy of the entire universe itself, that everything is doomed even when Humanity's not being as big of a bunch of regressive zealots because we already made things bad beyond the point of resolution. Poignant message, imho...