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[–] [email protected] 162 points 1 month ago (33 children)

Another demonstration of how NYC is the only real city in America and anywhere else is a suburb larping as a metropolis.

You can't call yourself a metropolis unless half the population uses public transit: change my view.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

Ok! As per the marriam-webster definition of a metropolis:

the chief or capital city of a country, state, or region,

the city or state of origin of a colony (as of ancient Greece),

a city regarded as a center of a specified activity,

a large important city.

As per Cambridge:

a very large city, often the most important city in a large area or country.

Collins:

A metropolis is the largest, busiest, and most important city in a country or region.

Britannica:

a very large or important city — usually singular

Oxford:

A very large urban settlement usually with accompanying suburbs. No precise parameters of size or population density have been established. The structural, functional, and hierarchical evolution of global metropolises is rooted as much in the past as in the present: modern information and communications technology may be more advanced than the 19th-century telegraph, but the processes and outcomes are much the same (Daniels (2002) PHG 26). ‘[Berlin's] wealth of facilities, as well as their scatter across the metropolis, can be understood only in the light of the city's history and, paradoxically, its troubles.

Longman:

a very large city that is the most important city in a country or area

You:

NYC but only if half the people use public transit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

All those definitions use “city”. Does the definition of city require the kind of density that would make relying mostly on self-owned cars impossible? Depends, in america no, in other countries maybe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Does the definition of city require the kind of density that would make relying mostly on self-owned cars impossible?

Ooooo, self-moving goalposts, nice!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oooo passive aggressive people on lemmy, nice!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. “City” is a legal designation for an inhabited area. Some legal frameworks place a minimum population requirement for designation as a city but none (AFAIK) require a population density value.

For example, Oklahoma City is the largest city in the US by land area (or it was a few years ago) because the city limits were drawn that way. Population density was and is very low but it’s still a city.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

in some countries it is. Not in all. You can’t generalise the US’s rules for everywhere. Also, many words have both common and legal meanings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

No it doesn't. However original commenter put a challenge out on what a metropolis is. I responded to the challenge.

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