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I would rather fair wages, but this works too, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

My rule is that I only tip for table service, where it's already factored into the servers' wages.

I refuse to enable even more companies to shirk the responsibility of paying their employees a fair wage.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It’s really sad to me that Americans get put in the awful position of choosing between tipping, which supports the low wages, and taking responsibility for ensuring another human being has a living wage. It’s just such a terrible position for a consumer to be placed in, having to make ethical and moral choices about how much money to pay for goods and services.

[–] brbposting 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

American who really dislikes tipping here.

In reality? IDK, all sit down restaurants have these menus that are missing “MANDATORY 20% TIP NOT INCLUDED!!!” under every single item. I read it when I sit down - well, I don’t, it’s not written there. But I know. I know before I sit down. I know before I enter, before I drive to the restaurant, before I decide what I want to eat and where.

There’s no decision. I sit down, I get fully served, I tip 20%.

If I were to receive terrible service, based on redditor urging I suppose I’d tip 20% and talk to the manager on my way out (or email them, esp. if with friends). “Tips get pooled, don’t punish others!!” The unwritten addendum doesn’t say “MANDATORY UNLESS BAD SERVICE!”

All restaurants, 20%, always, all the time. No thought. Just tip. I move the decimal and double the amount and math it up in less than two seconds. Second nature.

Again, tipping sucks! But… what choice? I make the choice to either agitate for change (write my representatives) or stay quiet. I don’t choose whether to tip. It’s mandatory. We LiVe in A sOciETy!! 😀

See your point though and I like how you phrased it and that you’re thinking about it. Booooo tipping for whichever reason we have for it! (Gotta say I want UBI or something b/c it’s nice you can make bank @ a high-end restaurant w/o a college degree, and I love that feature of the overall bug. Would still apply if “tipped minimum wage” were abolished.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

We don't generally tip much in the UK. Staff in high end restaurants still "make bank" from tips, as wealthy people are still more likely to tip.

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