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[–] mindbleach 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Is pumped-hydro inefficient or something? All the arguments about flooding land and surveying geography seem bizarre if the alternative includes a big impermeable structure. We've got those, for water. They're called pools. They're nontrivial because you have to contain pressure that desperately wants to leak out, but holding compressed air is surely harder. Water also doesn't change temperature when you move it uphill.

Why is this better than two reservoirs with a pipeline between them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The main reason is you can site it in a lot of places you can't put pumped hydro.

[–] mindbleach 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... what, just anywhere flat? Pumped hydro should be feasible wherever there's a hill.

If we're building big weird structures, even that is optional. You can put one pool above-ground and another in-ground. Deep and tall presumably beat wide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To actually do the volumes that make pumped hydro practical you need not just a hill but a space which can hold a truly huge volume of water.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah pumped hydro needs lakes, not pools, as far as I know. They flood entire mountain valleys, using the surrounding mountains themselves as the storage structure, because they need so much space.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But a warehouse-sized balloon works?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, because phase transitions involve absolutely huge amounts of energy.

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