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  1. never signed up for anything like this,
  2. never donated to or signed up for emails from the DNC, et al.,
  3. political texts like this come all the time, and
  4. I hesitate to reply “stop” because I don’t want them to know this is a live number (is my instinct here outdated/inapplicable?)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

Your number is on a list of real numbers with real identities associated with them that was sold to them. Data brokers sell this information daily. They already know your number is real, but in order to comply with the law, they have to provide you with a legitimate option to opt out, so you will actually stop receiving correspondence from them if you ask them to stop (it is legally required). If not, they could be subject to a fine, but you'd obviously have to file a complaint with the relevant regulatory body for that.

If you do not attempt to opt out, they cannot be fined for spam if this is part of a legitimate donation campaign. If you don't reply, they will continue sending messages to you in the future. It costs them almost nothing to do, so even if they didn't know your number was real, they would do it anyway. Most of the people who donate from these messages don't reply through text message anyway. And if this were an actual scam, then there is nothing they gain from receiving a text back so long as you do not open their link. But again, in order for legal action to be taken (since these political reach outs are legal and not spam so long as there is an option to opt out), you must first try to opt out.

EDIT: Feel free to block the number after opting out. If they are legitimate (though the name is really fishy), then opting out will remove your number from all of their solicitors' lists, so you won't get texts or calls from different numbers working for the same campaign. Again, replying doesn't give them anything even if it is a scam, as your number was obtained from a real list sold to them by a data broker; they already know the number is in service. Just don't click the link in the text, and don't reply with anything other than stop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Pretty sure they won’t keep messaging me after I blocked their number and reported spam

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

True, but if you get a new phone and your blocked numbers list is reset, or they send messages from a different number, then you could get them again in the future. I see this often because there are multiple people in that campaign that will all reach out to people with their own phone numbers. Opting out prevents that for legitimate donor campaigns (you are removed from the list for all of the solicitors associated with that campaign), but obviously not for scams. There is no harm in doing both, and I would recommend that (it's what I do).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why would my blocked numbers list reset?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New phone, new carrier, new sim card, wiping your phone to refresh it. If you haven't specifically backed up your blocklist and imported it then it could reset.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can see you have never owned an iPhone before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why am I supposed to assume you own an iPhone? I'm trying to list out all the potential cases in general for you and for other people. If you switch from Android to iOS or vice versa this would be the case. Seamless backup solutions aren't exclusive to Apple either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Mine reset when I switched phones a couple months ago, and I had to manually add them to my new phone. If I hadn't noticed, then my blocked numbers list would be empty. Not saying that is a common issue, but it doesn't hurt to opt out before blocking; just don't click any links or say anything other than the opt out keyword.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They have an iPhone, so they are going to be fine.

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