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[–] [email protected] 239 points 3 months ago (27 children)

Let's be honest, the whole thing has always been a little weird.

[–] [email protected] 199 points 3 months ago (19 children)

I'm German and learned about this via a friend from the US. When they mentioned it, I thought their teacher was a lunatic. Then they told me that this is normal course of action. Just what in the absolute fuck.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It depends on where and when in the US. In areas that are Democratic (the more liberal party) it doesn't really happen much anymore, but in areas that are Republican (the more conservative party) it still happens at the start of every single school day.

And the custom of doing this was started by a salesman trying to sell flags and magazine subscriptions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy#Pledge_of_Allegiance

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean that’s just an unfortunate coincidence given it predated the rise of naziism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, it definitely is in that sense. The point is that patriotism is hard to discern from facism. That they happened to use the same symbol here is just a good illustration of that. Ultimately, the Hitler Salute also started out as a symbol of patriotism before it all turned to genocide.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's state law where I live IIRC. They force you to say it, because of legal precedent, but the school can apparently get in trouble with the state if they don't say it at the start of the day.

It was always funny when we'd all stand up and only the teachers and maybe three students would say it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might want to proofread that second sentence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
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