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D.C. judges are "fed up" with "Trump's maneuvers and sensitive to need to move quickly," ex-prosecutor says

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

Okay, so he'll be indicted in D.C., which means he'll have to run with that shadow looming over him, but how dark of a shadow is it really? He didn't participate in the riot, didn't give any specific orders to the rioters to riot, much less invade the Capitol building. His actual words were vague enough that I'm not seeing how this case stands any chance of an actual conviction. And if the trial actually ends up happening before Election Day next year, his acquittal will actually wind up helping him, no?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There is apparently a lot of witnesses to the case. One of them that witnessed before the Congress said that there where talks about this in the white house prior to january 6. She also said that he demanded to be driven to the congress that day and apparently he took chocked a secret service employee since he did not do so..

Trump knew what was going to happen and calling his speech that day vague is really something. It amazes me that folks don't see the writing on the wall.

Remember that this is the justice department that charges him. They are known only to take up cases they are sure they will be able to win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not arguing Trump didn't encourage people to riot and yes, I know he knew full well what was likely to happen and did nothing to stop it. But I'm used to evidence in legal cases needing to be pretty watertight to obtain a conviction (a very good aspect of our legal system, btw). I just don't see how a conviction is likely, despite how obvious his guilt is from a "common sense" standpoint.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe you don't see how a conviction is possible because there's not even an indictment, much less a case or evidence, for you to evaluate?

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