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People: "Someone really needs to do something about immigration"
The Left: ....
People: " I really, really wish someone would listen and do something about immigration issues"
The Left: ....
People: "I'm getting killed by all these capitalists using cheap labour to suppress wages and to keep rents high for everyone. This immigration issue has gone on too long the people don't want this. Someone out there must be listening to me"
The Left: ...
People: *vote for the right*
The Left: *surprised pikachu*
I can only speak for the situation in Germany and the silence was not the left but the conservative party CDU under Merkel. She was great for foreign relations, but her party sucked (still does too). During the 12 years they were in power they slept on all the issues, they never bothered to address climate change, we have a problem with our pension system which was always a topic, never addressed. There was a huge immigrant wave close to the end of Merkel's third term which her party completely slept on (she did take the initiative though at some point).
Now we have the social democrats, the greens and the liberals in the government, which are stuck with the dumpster fire of problems that accumulated over the last 12 years. They are working their ass off and have to make unpopular choices, which is a great attack vector for boulevard press and the opposition. CDU is super salty about not being in power anymore so they are against every change that is happening, which creates really bad vibes. Meanwhile the AfD uses the emotion and frustration to their advantage even though it is completely illogical to follow them.
So no, in Germany, the left is not the problem.
I understand the centre right caused those issues. The right are usually the ones that break down labour laws, trade barriers and increase immigration. The left normally do the opposite. But now the left is sleeping on the immigration issue and the left is also acting like it is out of nowhere that the far right are winning.
The point I was trying to make is the far right are the only ones saying they will deal with immigration in the way people want it dealt with.
It seems the issue around the world is if a centre left or left party actually listened to the people on immigration they could win by a landslide. But people are forced to vote far right because they feel they literally have no other choice.