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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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Does making sure he's transphobic while he's being misogynistic mean this is unfortunately technically inclusive?
I get this is a dumb question, but if sexbots and uterine replicators will make women redundant, why am I supposed to be threatened by trans women? In Roko's framing, all women, trans and cis, will be replaced by robots. I got no problem if my secret post-andropocalypse wilderness tent at Camp Hothead Paisan is the home of both cis & trans women.
I guess he's seeing the existence of trans women as proof of his theory.
"Trans women are trying to replace RealTM women" is a surprisingly common TERF talking point.
But what’s the point of being a trans woman in his narrative? Trans women will also be replaced by uterine replicators and sexbots! They will also be disempowered and sent to the salt mines with the cis women! That’s the part I find inexplicable.
I can see there’s a shitty faux-feminist idea that cis women will be replaced by trans women, like an XX chromosome is inherently inferior (so feminist!) and anyone with both a superior XY genome & a nice rack will obviously be a threat. But in this case Roko’s own argument says that robots are superior to flesh, so trans women aren’t the threat.
I realize that I’m trying to find logic in something that’s so beyond dumb it’s come out the other side into a sort of sublime form of perfection, but at least the basilisk follows some bizarre internal logic. This one is self contradictory. Is it so much to ask that I want misogynist and transphobic assholes to understand how to build a basic logical argument?!?
Oh, uh, I got this: trans women are part of the gay agenda. You see, Alpha Males like him would obviously not go quietly into the women-less night, so the Gays have cooked up a devious plan to turn all men gay via trans women subbing in for RealTM women, so that once the time comes, men won't have a problem with getting rid of women! It's the perfect, devious plan! It explains everything, from why there's suddenly more trans women to only further proving his theory right!
Remember, it doesn't have to make sense in the real world, only in his own twisted mind.
@gnomicutterance The basilisk is just an AI rip-off of Dispensationalist Satan. So it's not surprising that Roko's position on women echoes that of the most reactionary strains of Christian thought.
The basilisk is explicitly the Good AI, doing this for the good of all humanity! It's just unfortunate that requires putting Roko into a locker over and over for eternity
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i'm sorry Mr Mijic, your tamagotchi is not going to have a good day