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[–] [email protected] 189 points 3 months ago (36 children)

Doubt there is one. The hard truth is that most Americans' taxes are pretty simple and straightforward. We can stop pretending that copying some boxes from a W2 and a 1099 is difficult.

I mean, personally I wish we'd stop pretending that the IRS isn't already fully aware of what you owe and could just do the filling for you, like in other countries, but until Grover Norquist fucks off forever we're stuck where we are.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Right. Filing taxes should only be necessary if you have itemized writeoffs or wish to contest the IRS's statement of your tax liability. They already know what you earned their your employer, what's been paid in taxes, what basic credits your qualify for, etc. They know what you owe so long as you didn't have expenses to apply for that they couldn't assume or know about. The only reason they don't already do that or, at least until now, have a free public system for filing, it's because tax companies have lobbied for decades to be able to milk the public for cash to help them file and navigate their tax liability.

[–] brbposting 18 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The argument has been since free filing means only the wealthy will hire accountants, free filing would discriminate against the poor given a few mistakes will be made here and there.

I may not need to mention that disingenuous argument is made by the pirates at Intuit and their lobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

free filing would discriminate against the poor

As opposed to the current system where the richest among us can hire a whole team of accountants to find every deduction possible?

[–] brbposting 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It should also be noted that if the vast majority of people do nothing special on their taxes and just accept the government's assessment, then that leaves a much smaller group of people to be audited. And a much larger portion of those people will be those who are trying to weasel their way out of paying their share. Right now, with the IRS being criminally underfunded, they only focus on low hanging fruit, the small fries. With those people being boiler plater auto-accepting tax payers, that would mean the IRS has no reason to audit them and can focus on the big boys where the real cheats are. That's another big reason we do not have that sort of system and why the IRS is currently so underfunded (despite every dollar spent on the IRS generating between 5 and 9 dollars in revenue from tax fraud/evasion). Those kinds of people pay to make sure it doesn't happen.

[–] brbposting 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] brbposting 3 points 3 months ago

The ick:

Those kinds of people pay to make sure it doesn't happen.

Greedy losers

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