this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
2043 points (93.4% liked)

Fuck Cars

9168 readers
74 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (32 children)

You ever try taking your new mattress and bed frame on a train?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Always hated that argument for big cars. You buy a new bed/mattress/big furniture like once a year. Delivery is maybe 50 bucks. The extra cost of a car big enough to transport that stuff is in the thousands. Somehow everyone gets upset when confronted with delivery fees while being perfectly fine with dishing out cash for a car. Redo the fucking math.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Funnily Ive got downvoted for bringing the same argument against replaceable phone batteries in another thread. Like, just pay a tech once every few years to do it for you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it the same argument? A phone with a replaceable battery isn't more expensive than one whitouth a replaceable battery.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is, slightly, but that's not the point. The point is that even when swappable batteries were the norn, most people never did change them. And even among the ones who did, few did this more than once. So is this additional complexity even worth it? e.g. if it costs one penny to make unit with swappable battery, and it costs $1 to perform a swap without it, does it makes sense to do it for 1 in 100 customers who does?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats absolutely not the same argument. And please tell me where can I change the battery of my phone for 1$?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me where I can get a custom mold for a penny. It was just an example.

I dont understand how you dont see it. You can buy X because you might want to Y, but you probably never would, and even if you do, its better hand it over to professionals. You can put "truck/moving furniture" or "phone/change battery", same argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not a realistic example at all.

I see it, it's just not the same argument. The other argument is like this: X costs thousands while Y costs tens. Y is cheaper.

And it's bullshit that moving furniture or changing a battery should be hand over to professionals. It can be a simple task.

Also I don't agree that most people wouldn't change the battery of it was easily replaceable. We'll see in a few years when most phones would have easily replaceable battery due to the EU law.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (28 replies)