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[-] [email protected] 103 points 2 months ago

non-flammable end use

Safe and stable chemistry

Oh neat, finally a non-explody and/or unstable battery lmao

[-] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

Well, only relatively.

In order to work batteries need to have a certain amount of instability built in, on a chemical level. Them electrons have to want to jump from one material to a more reactive one; there is literally no other way. There is no such thing as a truly "safe and stable" battery chemistry. Such a battery would be inert, and not able to hold a charge. Even carbon-zinc batteries are technically flammable. I think these guys are stretching the truth a little for the layman, or possibly for the investor.

Lithium in current lithium-whatever cells is very reactive. Sodium on its own is extremely reactive, even moreso than lithium. Based on the minimal lookup I just did, this company appears to be using an aqueous electrolyte which makes sodium-ion cells a little safer (albeit at the cost of lower energy density, actually) but the notion that a lithium chemistry battery will burn but a sodium chemistry one "won't" is flat out wrong. Further, shorting a battery pack of either chemistry is not likely to result in a good day.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

There is no such thing as a truly "safe and stable" battery chemistry.

Is it even possible to have energy storage of any kind that is truly safe and stable? Some are better than others, of course.

[-] SreudianFlip 13 points 2 months ago

Giant springs are fucking scary. Energy is dangerous when you store a lot in one place.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets 11 points 2 months ago

Large flywheels are well known to be terrifying mechanical monsters, despite just being a spinning disc

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

A couple decades ago I worked at a place that did power generation turbine controls.

One thing I worked on was a redundant sync check for connecting turbines to the grid. A turbine has to be brought up to speed, about 3600rpm in the US, before being connected to the grid. The sine wave coming out of the generator needs to match the sine wave on the grid.

If they are mismatched when the huge breaker closes, it’s not a shock or fire hazard, it’s an explosion hazard.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Dams are scary too, I just hope people are able to decommission them slowly when the time comes. Otherwise the deluge is going to suck.

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