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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (41 children)

PP is so fake, it will be painful to see him as a prime minister, but Trudeau had his shot at election reform and lied to people, so he is ultimately to blame.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (29 children)

You know, this bad take about Trudeau having "lied to people" is part of the reason we are going to end up with a CPC majority government undoing good progress across a whole host of important issues.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (27 children)

Trudeau absolutely lied about electoral reform.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, he didn't. This is the fantasy narrative that election reformers tell themselves.
The reality is that these efforts always blow up because there is never a consensus on what to change it to, and the general public just doesn't care.

And with the blowback they got for their efforts, they won't touch it again for at least another 15-20 years. The CPC would never even consider it. The NDP are as far from power as ever being essentially dead east of Ontario, and spotty through the rest of the country.

So people can sulk if they want to, but it's going to be status quo for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There absolutely was a consensus. Trudeau created a commission on electoral reform to find out what the best system for Canada would be. That commission came back that a Proportional Representation system was the recommendation. That's not the answer Trudeau wanted (himself favoring a watered down STV) and so he canceled the whole idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

No, not the committee, in the electorate.
You can get a small majority to support switching away from FPTP. Then the supporters split into MMP, Ranked, STV, and a number of hybrid systems. That's the primary reason why it has repeatedly lost at the provincial level.

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