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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (157 children)

I don't consider tankies leftists. I'm an anarchist. I consider myself far left.

[–] skulkingaround 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (16 children)

They're analogous to the far right is the main thing. Anarchism/communism/etc. is the gateway to such views. Most lefists don't go that far (good) but some do. Same thing with the far right, they start off as libertarian, ancap, or run of the mill conservatives etc. and end up going into cuckoo land after they watch too much cable news and facebook conspiracies.

In the USA, we have an environment where it's far easier and more beneficial to those in power to co-opt people into right wing extremism than left wing extremism, hence the outsized representation. You can definitely find countries where the opposite is true, it's a fairly big issue in south american and southeast asian nations. What's interesting to me is that the end goals are nearly the same, which is to implement an authoritarian state where there is a powerful insular ingroup that can exploit the masses to their benefit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

the end goals are nearly the same, which is to implement an authoritarian state

first, a bit of snark: there is a cure for political illiteracy.

then, a rebuttal: communism is a stateless classless moneyless society. there is no such thing as a communist state. for many anarchists, this is indistinguishable from anarchism.

[–] skulkingaround 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Statelessness is the end goal of communism, yes. I have met so-called communists that think strongarm authoritarianism is the way to get there, and for some reason believe that those authoritarians would willingly give up their power once they've achieved a position where they could implement said stateless society. This is basically what happened in the USSR and China, and is decidedly not the path Marx himself proposed for achieving it. A stateless communist society in Marxist thought is simply the natural progression after late stage capitalist societies, which is not a step you can simply skip over.

I don't necessarily agree with the idea, but I think it's important to be educated on a wide variety of schools of political thought.

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