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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/ZarkinDrife on 2024-01-23 03:45:54+00:00.


Hey, noticed SFF PC on YouTube and have been captivated by them ever since and even want to try and build my first PC as a SFF. Was just wondering about your thoughts on this case:

Love the white aesthetics and the fact it could be water-cooled. But just want to hear some thoughts on it since it is rather pricey but if I do want to make my first PC in it I want to make sure its at least future-proof for a decent amount of time so I will probably be spending quite a pretty dime on this pc anyways.

My main system for gaming at the moment as been my m1 MacBook Air so anything would be an upgrade but I think the heaviest game I would be looking at playing might be baldurs gate 3 or Rainbow Six Siege/Fortnite.

If you have any other case suggestions that would probably match a MacBooks white/silver aesthetic I would love to hear it. Hopefully I flared this correctly.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/Pe-4 on 2024-01-23 03:36:01+00:00.


Hey guys! My Velka 7 2.1 will soon arrive and so I am sharing my final parts list before I go out to buy them *The Inno3D 4070 ti Super is not out yet, but according to texhpowerup it should fit:

I want to make a powerfully compact machine to last me years to come for gaming and any other application I throw at it Would you change any of the parts?

PCPartPicker Part List

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| | CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $229.00 @ B&H | | CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-L9A-AM5 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler | $44.95 @ Amazon | | Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX AM5 Motherboard | $311.99 @ Amazon | | Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory | $114.99 @ Amazon | | Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $164.99 @ B&H | | Video Card | Inno3D X3 GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card | $850.00 | | Power Supply | Corsair SF750 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply | $169.99 @ Newegg | | | Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | | | | Total | $1885.91 | | | Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-22 22:31 EST-0500 | |

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/TwinDeathScythe on 2024-01-23 03:20:37+00:00.


So this week I would be probably (hopefully) be getting my parts for my first ever pc build (and yes I went with ITX/SFF).

Here is what I plan on buying:

Case: Fractal Terra

CPU: I5-13600k

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix B760-I

GPU: 4070 TI ProArt (tho I might try to get my hands on a Super)

PSU: Corsair SF750

Ram: Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000mhz CL36

I need thoughts on what CPU Cooler to get for my build. As well as tips for a new builder and tips for the Terra.

Thanks Guys!

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/rarefishmerchant on 2024-01-23 02:40:50+00:00.


Title. I’m looking for a good cooler to run in a Terra Fractal with an ASUS 4070 Dual.

Made the mistake of buying a way too small Noctua cooler. Was looking at the NH-L12 Ghost S1. Would that suffice?

If not, what should I get?

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/dxmixalot on 2024-01-23 02:02:15+00:00.


Hello,

Is there any current mini-itx MB with 10Gb ethernet onboad LAN?

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/wisolf on 2024-01-23 01:04:00+00:00.


Just curious if any one has attempted to set up the Streacom DA6 without a riser cable. Streacom recommends using one and all the builds I have seen use one but I was wondering if any one who has built in it could tell me if there is anything stopping you from sliding the mobo tray to the back and mounting the gpu on the side for instance directly in the PCI slot? For instance in this image they have a very similar cooler rendered to my Noctua NH12L. I would like to build vertically and maybe rotate the motherboard and put the gpu where they put the radiator. Perhaps they dont display this option because it makes the case prone to tipping? Unsure.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/ruizufase on 2024-01-23 00:02:36+00:00.


Hello. Thanks in advance for replying. My stock noctua nh-l9i chromax.black fan has started to fail, it has started making a noise like it has something stuck, I have cleaned it multiple times with compressed air and even disassembled it with no improvement. Now I just recently noticed that the fan kind of slows itself while spinning, you can see it get kind of stuck and spin slower, and obviously temps have been higher.

My question is, should I make the move to a bigger and, probably, better fan other than the stock?. If yes which one would yo recommend for the type of open air build?.

The CPU that it is cooling is a Ryzen 2700X.

Thanks again.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/cguzzo on 2024-01-22 23:24:58+00:00.


Title says it all must be willing to ship!

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/SnackableChips on 2024-01-22 23:13:43+00:00.


Evening, I'm looking to get the Geeek G1 Pro case and have hunted for the following parts:

General:

  • I expect the cost to be around £2000 / $2500 and will be bought in ~3 months time
  • Measurements are straight from the linked manufacturer's specifications, such as case max size and the square dimensions of parts.
  • Airflow will be bottom to top through all components such as VRM's and RAM and through the side of the GPU heatsink. The 140mm's vs 120mm's with a rad should keep the airflow positive, and a dust grill will be placed on the bottom.
  • Cable management just needs to not stick into fans, the side panels obscure a lot so looks are not important. With GPU against one side, and the RGB lighting on the other it should prevent seeing inside clearly.
  • I own the PSU, both NVMe's, and 2x120mm Fans already.
  • The case has some accommodations such has having a shorter pump for a thicker GPU, or removing brackets to fit parts, but I plan for no changes like that to be required (keeping it simple-r).
  • I know I'll need fan splitters and plan 2x120 Rad fans on CPU_FAN, AIO pump on AIO_PUMP, and 2x140mm on SYS_FAN.
  • I plan to use foam spacers on the fans to reduce noise, but it's subject to available clearance as of the time and this is not planned with them in mind.
  • I'm coming from an i7-9700k and gtx1080. Despite newer parts being released this year like the 4080 super and AMD 8000 CPU's, anything is a serious upgrade at this point and so I'm not overly fussed about min-maxing for the peak choice of the hour. I might end up changing parts but its not planned.

My current concerns are:

  • The Heatsink NVMe is going to be slightly thicker than usual (8.8mm vs 2.3mm), is it likely to cause clearance issues on the back of the motherboard?
  • The GPU will leave me with the clearance of L: 0mm x W: 10mm x H: 7mm. The GPU should fit, however its to the millimetre. Is there likely to be enough slack left to fit the card?
  • AIO pump has 1mm clearance, should be fine with the side panel. AIO radiator and fan height are to the mm as well, going to be very close to the top of the motherboard where the 8pin and fan headers go. I'm expecting this to limit cable routing but not obscure the pins?
  • The CPU supports 2 sticks of 5200mHz, however people recommend 6000mHz with it. Seems to be silicon lottery as to any higher. eXPO will apparently overclock the CPU's memory controller to support 6000mHz. Likely to boot a few times and should drop to the DDR5 default 4000mHz if it doesn't like it. Is this interpretation right? The RAM deep dive was horrific.

I think I'm flying a bit close to the sun here with clearance, so if anyone can shed their wisdom on general part sizing with SFF cases, or features they can have as to help with this (such as something like an extra 10mm above their "Max" for ease of install) then any and all input would be great. Cheerio

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/rarefishmerchant on 2024-01-22 20:11:21+00:00.


Title basically. First time building an sff pc, and I’ve had good experiences with Noctua in the past. Is this CPU cooler enough, however? Should i return it and get another?

P.S. I am building in a Fractal Terra.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/5741354110059687423 on 2024-01-22 17:55:14+00:00.


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Boring Prologue

After a decade since building my first PC in high school, I've decided to build another and get back into PC gaming and do some light editing. I figured it would be a good way to stay connected with long distance friends.

The initial idea behind this build was supposed to be a $500 dogshit, play-on-medium-settings, Facebook Marketplace plus stuff I had around, hodgepodge build. Then I decided that a micro-ATX form factor would be a better use of my desk space. Then I decided that Mini-ITX would be an even better use of my desk space. I ultimately ramped up my budget, as one does, and used my big boy income to settle on a build that I have self-respect for. I did get lucky on sourcing a few of the parts but that just enabled me to spend more on the aesthetics.

I picked the Hyte Revolt 3 mainly because of handle but also for the rest of the form factor and style. Prior to this build, I searched online and found a good amount of resources from other builds. I wanted to share mine here as another resource for anyone else that may consider this case. Most people chose to cool theirs with an AIO. I opted to keep it simple and try out the stock cooler for now. An aftermarket cooler will certainly be the next upgrade.

The Build

As far as components go, I got a pretty good deal on the 5600x on eBay, brand new in box for $120. Then I picked up a RTX 3060 brand new in box from some guy on Facebook Marketplace for $200. The RAM was another Facebook find for $25. The PSU was bought on eBay for $100 as a sealed but damaged box. I looked up some unboxing video of the PSU to see if the damage in the eBay listing would have had direct impact to the PSU but it was evident that the PSU would be fine. Still a slight gamble for some moderate savings but hey it worked out. I installed a pair of old 256GB SSDs to be used in RAID0 for large programs, games, and other large files that I don't concern myself with the safety/speed of. The case, mobo, 2TB SSD, and fans were purchased on Amazon.

These parts will be used to run two 1080p 24" 60Hz monitors.

It took me about 3-4 collective hours to build and tidy up this PC to the way I wanted. The IO ports facing downward is something new to me. There is an access hole for the front ports and power button to enter through. You can see in the picture that I opted to route some of these cables through the third, unused GPU slot. The wires travel up the front of the case, around the GPU. This kept the space above the bottom of the motherboard a bit cleaner. This may not be an option if you are installing a larger, 3-fan GPU. This is also dependent on the motherboard layout.

Honestly, most of my time went into shoving the wires beside the empty and available space for the PSU and the unused 3.5" drive bay. I highly recommend getting a modular PSU for this if you have it in your budget. The PSU fan is oriented to face inward to accommodate the way that the wires are organized. There is slight concern for the power cable going into the GPU given the dramatic bend, but I've since written off the concern since it's a static position.

I have set both case fans as an intake fan. Contrary to some other builds, all magnetic filter screen inserts are left in place. I considered removing the exhaust side (rear) but I didn't want to find a place to store it. The CPU is left at stock settings. At idle, it sits around 55C and reaches 86C while playing Battlefield V on ultra. I haven't really paid much attention to the GPU since it never went over 70C at load whenever I'd glance at it. Like I've mentioned, the stock CPU cooler will be eventually replaced. I don't see myself needing to install the 80mm fan(s) above the GPU because this build is very mid-range. Others attempting to push the space to the limits may see otherwise. Definitely review Hyte's webpage for the Revolt 3's GPU size limitations.

To wrap things up, I'm quite content with the build. The parts are admittedly a bit dated but they work fine with the monitors that I have. I haven't had the experience of using 1440p, high refresh rate monitors so I can be blissfully ignorant over what I am missing for the sake of saving my money lol. With that, I feel this will be sufficient for my needs over the next 4~ years before making my way to new components.

I'm probably missing some details but this post is already quite long for no reason. I'd love to try to answer any other questions for anyone looking at this case. Thanks for reading!

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/Sci_Th on 2024-01-22 16:41:30+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/juicyfist on 2024-01-22 04:48:32+00:00.


Hello fellow PC enthusiasts!

I recently upgraded my rig and wanted to get some opinions on whether it's worth making additional changes. Here's my current build:

  • CPU: Intel i7-9700KF (upgraded from i5-8400)

  • Mobo: Asus B360i

  • Cooler: Noctua D9L

  • RAM: Patriot Viper 2x8GB 2666MHz

  • GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra (upgraded from Colorful GTX 1070Ti Vulcan X)

  • Storage:2x1TB NVME + 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM

  • PSU: Corsair SF600

  • Case: CP3 ITX from Taobao (link: CP3 ITX Case)

I'm considering the following upgrades and would love to hear your thoughts:

  1. Mobo Upgrade: Switching to a 370i or 390i. Do you think this would significantly enhance performance or provide better features compared to my current B360i?

  2. RAM Upgrade: Upgrading from 2x8GB 2666MHz to 2x16GB 3200MHz. Would this boost performance noticeably, especially in gaming or multitasking?

  3. Cooler Change: Considering a low-profile cooler or AIO. Any recommendations or insights on how this might impact temperatures and overall system performance?

  4. Case Change: Thinking about switching to a sandwich layout case. What are the advantages and potential drawbacks? Any specific recommendations for a great sandwich layout case?

I'd love to hear your experiences and opinions on these potential changes. Feel free to share any other suggestions or upgrades you think might be beneficial for my setup. Thanks in advance for your input!

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/Marsh7579 on 2024-01-22 22:27:25+00:00.


Link to parts list (warning: used and bargain bin components galore)

Headline: This $560 PC is smaller than a piece of paper and delivers 80 FPS average in 1440p games! Some expenses were definitely spared.

The idea behind this build was to deliver the absolute best performance per dollar possible in the confines an ultra-compact case. You could also think of this as an attempt at a console killer, delivering similar price, size, and performance, while also being, you know, a PC.

I would not reccomend this build to anyone who is not willing to go through the ebay return process, potentially more than once, as several components are used or cheaped out on.

Part justification: CPU: Ryzen 5 5500 (used) Best price to performance of any current CPU according to cpubenchmark.net. Used is better still.

GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Phoenix V2 Graphics Card (used) Best price to performance of any current CPU according to cpubenchmark.net. Used is better still. Single fan allows for ultra-compact form factor

Case: Mini-ITX PC Case Chassis Tower Small Form Factor Black Gaming With Riser Cable This 6.1 L case has support for a single fan graphics card, SFX power supply, and mini ITX motherboard, is cheap at $61 including the riser cable, and is smaller than an XBox series X or PS5 Motherboard: HP Motherboard AM4 Elitedesk 705 G3 (open box)

Motherboard: HP Motherboard AM4 Elitedesk 705 G3 (open box) This is definitely not a pretty or feature rich motherboard but it supports our CPU, is mini ITX, theoretically has never been used, and is a fraction of the price of other MITX boards at $39.

RAM: 16 gb (2 x 8 gb) samsung laptop ddr4 (open box) 16Gb of open box laptop ram. Not pretty but works, and is just $23

Power supply: Apevia SFX-AP500W Mini ITX Solution Cheap small form factor 500w power supply. Hopefully shouldn't explode.

Cooling: Stock coolers for CPU and GPU (the case should fit them fine). Don't know how fan support will be in this case but let's cross that bridge once we see the thermals.

Total cost: $560

Conclusion: It is definitely possible to build an ultra-cheap ultra-small PC. Whether it is to be reccomended depends on the thermals and noise, and how these cheap and used components hold up. Try at your own risk. This build is about as scrappy as you can get with a midrange graphics card like the 3060, and this build certainly does not cost a premium for its small form factor.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/Yakapo88 on 2024-01-22 22:09:20+00:00.


I’m guessing I did something wrong? Maybe I didn’t tighten down the cooler enough?

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/Notorious544d on 2024-01-22 21:50:42+00:00.


I've just built my first sff pc and I noticed a few things:

My motherboard has no LEDs (A620I Gigabyte AX). My old PC had a small LED on my GPU but that isn't visible in a sandwich layout.

The power button has no LED. The case only came with the power switch and HDD light front panel connectors.

This means that I have to rely on the fans spinning up to know whether I've turned the PC on. But I've set these to low RPMs during idle and I can only hear them up with my ear pressed onto the case, not when I'm on the chair.

Is there a way to add any sort of feedback?

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/CirseiMasta on 2024-01-22 20:40:39+00:00.


Hi, I'm considering buying a Jonsbo C6 PC case, but I'm not sure about the GPU length that could fit inside. On some specs, it is said it depends on the motherboard format you will use. Let's say I want to use a micro-ATX one, what would be the maximum size for a GPU ? Have you any recommended GPU for modern gaming, or a future proof one ? I was originally considering to buy this one.

Thx for any clue you can give, I'm a bit confused with sffpc '-_-

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/ChetJettison on 2024-01-22 19:45:56+00:00.


Hello all! I've got all the parts to create a fun little mini ITX gaming PC, but I'm stuck trying to choose a case. I really like the look of the taller cases with a small footprint, like the Corsair 2000D Airflow, but I'm also drawn toward the earth tones of the Fractal Design Terra Jade. I'd like to keep the cost low, under $200 if possible. Here's a link to the parts I've got on PC Part Picker:

You'll notice there isn't a PSU among those parts. I figured I should wait to choose the PSU based on your recommendations. Wouldn't want to end up with something that doesn't fit!

Looking forward to reading your suggestions! Thanks!

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I've got a fair amount of experience building things, including some PCs, and I'm not afraid of cases that will be more difficult to build in.

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/lemiloszos on 2024-01-22 15:50:11+00:00.


All specs:

  • Fractal Terra case
  • Asus Rog Strix B760-I Gaming WiFi mobo
  • Asus ProArt RTX 4070 OC 12GB GDDR6X
  • Intel Core i5-13500
  • Kingston Fury Beast 32GB, DDR5, 5200MHz, CL36
  • Patriot P300 128GB M.2 SSD ( for Windows )
  • Lexar NM790 2TB M.2 SSD ( for games and stuff)
  • Fortron Dagger Pro 650W PSU
  • Arctis P12 Slim PWN

Will this work well together and will the 650W psu be enough for this build and also is the cpu enough powerful for the gpu or will it create bottleneck (in 1440p)?

edited: I’m planning to go with stock intel cooler so will it be enough or should I get an aftermarket one (if yes than which)?

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The original was posted on /r/sffpc by /u/marquardmatt on 2024-01-22 18:34:54+00:00.


My goals are a build that caters to all my hobbies:

  1. (Priority) gaming at 1440p with high FPS (144+) and 4k for chill games (Elden Ring)
  2. video encoding
  3. Stable Diffusion

I travel back and forth btw Canada and the EU every 3 months so air travel is important. I've lasted with a Dell XPS 9370 + GTX1070 external GPU for 6 years and I'm tired of it.

My proposed build

System specs

  • Case: Dan A4 H20
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
  • MOBO: ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I
  • RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD Expo
  • GPU: TBD but likely RTX 4070 Ti Super (will find out what I get in a few days). Would prefer 4090 FE but can't find it in Canada at a reasonable price. 16GB is my minimum for stable diffusion tinkering
  • COOLER:
    • AIO: DeepCool LS520 SE Liquid Cooler 240mm 4th Gen OR
      • I hate the RGB, but it seemed the most affordable AIO that I found that fits Dan A4 H20
    • Air Cooler: Thermalright AXP90-X53 Full Copper Low Profile CPU Cooler
      • I get this would imply I need additional case fans where the AIO would have been
  • PSU: Corsair SFX 750
  • SSD: Western Digital SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 x 2

Questions/Concerns:

  • Travelling with AIO in carry-on. Everyone thinks probably ok, but airport security is an unknown, so I would have to disassemble the AIO from the build and put it in checked luggage each time I travel. Maybe I'm making a bigger deal than it is to disassemble and reassemble, and I should just accept that option. I have emailed DeepCool to see the quantity of liquid in the AIO to see if it comes under the 100ml allowance, but even if it does, it would be a risk.
  • Going with air cooling and using the AXP90-X53 Full Copper. It seems it could be viable, but because its relatively new and not many people have it - there aren't a lot of tests with the 7800x3D. I know the Full Black (which is also full copper) has been around for a while, it also doesn't have a lot of tests. I see people testing with the AXP90-X47 Full Copper, but it is probably not good enough for the 7800x3D without tinkering with voltage.
  • Is there a smaller case or equivalent size that would be better for air cooling? I've been looking at the S300 KXRORS: My intuition says no because there is even less room.
  • For air-travel, I've started reading people also remove their GPU because vibrations in the plane cause issues with hardware. I'd be treating this build like a newboard baby (that I slide under the seat in front of me).

I would appreciate any insight or advice you can give. Or, alternatively, feel free to roast me about how my proposed buid will roast my CPU.

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