Weird issue on my windows 11 computer where scrolling w the touchpad only moves the page up, not down. Regardless of which direction I am trying to scroll. Works on my other windows computer fine, same .emacs file and everything.

Anyone have any ideas?? Searched around the web and didn’t find anything.

I'm an Emacs newbie (using Doom Emacs with GNU Emacs 29.1). I came from vim, and battling with undo there was crazy enough, but I won using this:

inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u
inoremap , ,u
inoremap . .u
inoremap ( (u
inoremap [ [u
inoremap = =u
inoremap \" \"u
inoremap  u
inoremap  u

Also, I had autogroup that breaks undo every 4 seconds.

Basically, this configuration breaks undo on almost every possible type command, every Spacebar, Enter, comma, bracket, moving up, down, everything. This is because I hate when undo deletes the whole screen of text.

How do I replicate this in Emacs? I read this, but it doesn't say what is considered a "recent change".

For speed, I wish to disable everything that a language server (in this case clangd) provides *except* for code completion. I use eglot. How would I do this?

PS: No I don't want to use lsp-bridge because I want my own custom completion style.

What is the best version of Emacs?

For me, I LOVE MicroEmacs.

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I have a bunch of one off functions to do frame/window layout. But an issue I run into is that if I do, say

(set-frame-size (selected-frame) 255 80)
(some-other-function-that-looks-at-frame-size-to-split-windows)

Half the time the resize hasn't finished by the time the split function runs, and so it splits incorrectly. I'm assuming the resize happens asynchronously, but I don't see a hook or event I can make use of to make sure I'm splitting after the fact. Is there something I'm missing? Sleeping doesn't seem to fix it because that just delays the resize as well.

I use pdf-tools for reading and recently started using bookmark+ and dired+ for navigating. Unfortunately these two great packages seems to conflict.

One of the issues I noticed was that the bookmark+ command for bookmarking a pdf location in a pdf-tools buffer didn't work; it gave an empty buffer warning. Turns out bookmark+ creator Drew Adams had already suggested a workaround which I discovered here: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/72786/bookmark-plus-and-pdf-tools-pdf-view-error

So that solved or at least patched that issue. But then I noticed that with dired+ installed and any fairly large pdf opened in pdf-tools, emacs will freeze if you attempt to do dired-jump or helm-find-files. Dired-jump without dired+ is not affected by the size of the pdf at all and just opens the underlying directory immediately. But with dired+ anything above about 1mb or so hangs it for quite a while, anything around 10mb or more just freezes it for minutes on end to the point that unless you want to go make yourself lunch and coffee, you will have to force kill emacs to keep working.

As a noob, non-techie, non-developer, I just wanted to ask, what is the right way of asking about possibly getting this issue fixed, because I love these two packages and would love to have both in working order, but obviously don't have the coding know how to do it myself. Of course if anybody knows of a fix that's already out there for this issue, I'd love to know about that as well.

Now that I'm back, the series continues. Today we start the emoji-replace project. When we're done we'll have a mode where you can type an emoji name in a buffer like :dog: and it will be replaced with the emoji.

Here's part 1:

https://cestlaz.github.io/post/learning-elisp-11/

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For some reason, when I click a button, be it in the customize buffer or hyperlinks in org documents, it sometimes works, and other times the whole buffer shifts to the left like a single pixel and it sets a mark (it says so in the minibuffer). The button is not clicked in those instances.

Has someone experienced something similar? Is there a way to improve this?

Drag and drop files into bibtex

I found code here dnd images into auxtex. I am using the excellent Zotra package. I modified the dnd to auctex code to allow drag and drop pdf files into bibtex. My attempt below works. It creates a bibtex "file" field and fills it with the link to the file. However, it would be nice if I could add the following functionality: change the path of the uri to the directory citar-library-paths, change the file-name (excl ext) to the bib-key, move the file to the new path and then sets the file field. This will be useful when one has to manually add files to the bibtex database (in case where the Zotero translation server doesn't find the file. Any help or pointers to a package that works similarly would be appreciated.

(defcustom BIBTex-dnd-protocol-alist
  '(("^file:///" . BIBTex-dnd-bibtex-file)
    ("^file://"  . BIBTex-dnd-bibtex-file)
    ("^file:"    . BIBTex-dnd-bibtex-file))
  "The functions to call when a drop in a .bib file is made."
  :type '(choice (repeat (cons (regexp) (function))))
  :group 'bibtex)



(define-minor-mode BIBTex-dnd-mode
  "Minor mode to insert the name and full path of a dropped file into the 'file' entry of a .bib file."
  :lighter " DND"
  (when (boundp 'dnd-protocol-alist)
    (if BIBTex-dnd-mode
        (set (make-local-variable 'dnd-protocol-alist)
             (append BIBTex-dnd-protocol-alist 'dnd-protocol-alist))
      (kill-local-variable 'dnd-protocol-alist))))


(defun BIBTex-dnd-bibtex-file (uri action)
  "Insert the name and full path of a dropped file into the 'file' entry of a .bib file."
  (when (equal major-mode 'bibtex-mode)
    (let ((file (dnd-get-local-file-name uri t)))
      (when (and file (file-regular-p file))
        (bibtex-set-field "file" file )))))

I have recently approached the world of Emacs, which I find great... The problem though is that I feel I'm wasting too much time trying to have it running in order to do the real work (and I've seen, there are several memes about it), so I was wondering what are the must-have extensions to quickly fire something functional (similar to vscode... Don't make me get back to that please) for development.

By the way, I've seen several configurations scattered around the web, and something tells me that I've ended up in another anarchic realm (which is, something I both hate and love), as if that of distros -being the same except for one thing- wasn't enough.

Of interest are: Python, Go, Bash, Clojure, Elixir, yaml (Docker, Terraform, Ansible), json, csv

I would also appreciate the general must-have extensions, currently I'm getting lost navigating Doom Emacs and Melpa packages.

Thank you!

I've been away from this Lemmy community for a while (because something went wrong with both my Lemmy clients 🤷‍♀️) and now that I'm back I see that it shares a lot of post and comments with r/emacs. How does that work? Is this automated? Are people just posting the same thing in both places?

Hello,

Anyone aware of any package/code snipped that could replicate the paste behavior of vs code? To elaborate what I mean by that. When I copy image in file manager and paste it in a markdown file in vscode it automatically converts it into relative path from the current file. Alternatively is there a way to auto complete in the `C-c C-i` mini buffer?

Hello, I usually run the same command with async-shell-command, however I have to navigate back to the last command history to trigger my last run command, is there any way async-shell-command (and shell-command) can autofill with last run command so that I just hit enter without extra steps?

Hey guys, took me a while to figure this out since there isn't much information about this anywhere so I figured I'd leave this here for anyone else having the same issue.

If you're a terminal aficionado and you're using Kitty, all you have to do is install kkp.el and enable it in your config and all keybindings will work properly.

I'd like magit-status to open full frame, ie a single window. When I hit q to exit, I'd like my previous window configuration to be restored.

What's the best way to do this? Setting the follow var causes it to open full frame, but removes all windows except for one upon exit:

 (setq magit-display-buffer-function
  #'magit-display-buffer-fullframe-status-v1)

I can get to my previous window layout with winner-undo, but I'd like q to do the right thing in this case.

Any thoughts?

I am not skilled in drawing, but after trying PlantUML, I found that I can create visual representations directly using code. This has greatly aided my spatial imagination.

Take, for example, the usecases diagram:

@startuml
:user: -right-> (Right)
:user: -up-> (Up)
@enduml

https://preview.redd.it/1bx7h7sa7vub1.png?width=152&format=png&auto=webp&s=6271256f6855b88a93a62abf63569f1bc542ded5

With the use of directional terms like "up" and "right," you can intuitively draw the diagram as shown. it lowers barrier for non-artists - no drawing ability needed and focuses thought process on structural elements and relationships.

When immersed in text, our spatial imagination can often become less active. For example, when trying to imagine the hierarchical structure of an article such as org-mode, our mental representation tends to be more like a bullet structure in an editor, rather than a graphical tree structure.

PlantUML addresses the challenge of limited spatial imagination by providing an intuitive text-graph syntax. One notable feature is the Work Breakdown Structure (WBS) functionality.

Consider the following example:

@startwbs
!theme mono
    Emamcs
    ** Texting Editing
    ** Note taking
    ** File Manager
    ** Literature Programming
@endwbs

https://preview.redd.it/95b2mg6w9vub1.png?width=567&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e0f00c54e4d411ec731eba7b23a46a665ed78fc

The WBS feature in PlantUML facilitates the effortless transformation of a vertical structure into a horizontal representation. This allows me to mentally interpret and visualize the PlantUML code, automatically converting the vertical structure into a spatially-oriented horizontal structure in mind. Consequently, it effectively resolves the issue of my limited visual imagination and improving it continually.

​

When I installed doom emacs, I added lsp, c and c++ support and other things to init.el. When I started writing code in C, after adding the header file, auto completion advised me to add a comment to the code and other strange things. What could this be related to?

Hey there,

Maybe I'm just missing something obvious, but I'm a little bit confused as to how eat-eshell-mode works. If I, for example, fire up Eshell with Eat installed:

(elpaca-test
  :interactive t
  :init
  (elpaca eat (eat-eshell-mode))
  (eshell))

Then I try running e.g. top, I'd expect top to open in an Eat buffer, but it's not doing that for me right now: it just opens in plain ol' dumpy Term mode.

What am I missing? Is this not what Eshell integration is supposed to do? How do you use Eshell and Eat together?

I use dwm in my laptop, but previously used i3wm for a few years. I'm curious about:

• How well EXWM performs nowadays?
• Is it resource heavy compared to other tiling window managers?
• Is it still an issue EXWM not being multi-threaded?

My daily tasks involves just opening chrome, telegram and/or slack, watching movies and coding of course. Would it be a good fit for my needs?

I'd love to know your thoughts if you use or have some previous experience with EXWM. Thank you in advance!

It might be a bit controversial notion. But when I try to look for extensions say for completion framework there are many available and I used ido and then moved to ivy. I knew helm existed and is much more powerful in terms of feature-set, but never used it.

I read that emacs can report on keyboard usage (I think from xahlee's posts). Can it be repurposed to monitor which extensions are used often in users setup and they can share that report if they wish to public say via melpa like services. I suppose that melpa downloads can be used as a measure of usage.

When I use isearch-forward with cua keybindings enabled, then I still have to paste the text searched for in the minibuffer with C-y. When I use C-v then it pastes the text in the current buffer and not in the minibuffer. Is this correct behavior?

Hello, I'm currently experiencing a lot of input lag and slowness when working on javascript projects. May I ask what extra configuration I'm missing in order to fix this issue? I'm using doom emacs. My configuration looks as follows:

(use-package! lsp-mode
  :hook
  (rustic-mode . lsp)
  (json-mode . lsp)
  (sh-mode . lsp)
  (typescript-mode . lsp)
  (javascript-mode . lsp)
  (js2-mode . lsp)
  (rjsx-mode . lsp)
  :commands lsp
  :config
  (setq lsp-log-io nil)
  (setq lsp-eldoc-render-all nil)
  (setq lsp-inlay-hint-enable nil)
  (setq lsp-lens-enable nil)
  (setq lsp-signature-render-documentation nil)
  (setq lsp-signature-auto-activate nil)
  (setq lsp-eldoc-enable-hover nil)
  (setq lsp-modeline-code-actions-enable nil))

(use-package! lsp-ui
  :hook (lsp-mode . lsp-ui-mode)
  :config
  (setq lsp-eldoc-enable-hover nil)
  (setq eldoc-documentation-functions nil)
  (setq lsp-ui-sideline-enable nil)
  (setq lsp-ui-sideline-show-diagnostics nil)
  (setq lsp-ui-sideline-show-hover nil)
  (setq lsp-ui-peek-always-show nil)
  (setq lsp-eldoc-render-all nil)
  (setq lsp-eldoc-enable-hover nil)
  (setq lsp-ui-doc-enable nil))

As you can see, I have most lsp features disabled to improve performance, but yet I'm having a bad experience while working on JS files. I'd kindly appreciate any suggestion.

• Random interesting links

  • https://github.com/rougier/notebook-mode (Org styling)
  • https://github.com/ahyatt/ekg (Alternative database-based knowledge management approach)
  • https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/CANr+fmwRWfKpwVJWv4k2CLYczKNCuRqs4zZijRQ40K9r8YpmKw@mail.gmail.com/ (on combining multiple major modes and buffers in a single buffer)

• Nick Anderson mentioned Khoj (https://khoj.dev/)

  • It is an AI indexer for Org/MD/txt/pdf files and Github repositories
    • Allows querying Org notes, remote repository readmes, and documents using natural language, just like ChatGPT (but on your own dataset).
  • Can be used locally via pytorch/Llama 2
  • Can connect to ChatGPT
  • Implement its own python-based Org parser

• Why asked about neovim-friendly configs

  • Not exactly Org-specific, but the usual suggestions are Doomemacs and evil-mode in vanilla Emacs
  • Also, Nick Anderson reminded about Spacemacs (https://www.spacemacs.org/)
    • Unlike Doom emacs, which is fast, but not always stable, Spacemacs is an old, stable project. Although, AFAIR, Spacemacs is known for its slowness due to large number of packages.

• Nick Anderson shared https://github.com/unhammer/org-rich-yank

  • The package allows pasting code into Org files, automatically adding a backlink to the copied source code line.
  • Somewhat related: Org =open-source= protocol allows opening http pages locally. For example, one can take github URL and open the local git clone or Worg URL and open the local WORG clone.
    • https://orgmode.org/manual/The-open_002dsource-protocol.html
  • https://github.com/sshaw/git-link does the opposite - derive github URL from local git clone.
  • I personally also have a code that converts local =notmuch:= links to mailing list emails into URL https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#live-helm-org-ql-search-in-org

• Carlo Tambuatco asked about what is tree-sitter and how it is used in Emacs

  • The question is not exactly on topic as tree-sitter does not work well with Org

    • There is https://github.com/milisims/tree-sitter-org, but implementing Org syntax within GLR (supported by tree-sitter) is rather hard. As of recently, the existing tree-sitter module is (1) rather slow, even compared to Org's Elisp parser; (2) not accurate for complex documents.

  • On more introductory resources for tree-sitter, I strongly recommend the presentation from https://www.thestrangeloop.com/2018/tree-sitter---a-new-parsing-system-for-programming-tools.html

    • Also, see https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/#talks-on-tree-sitter
    • More Emacs-related description can be found in https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/tree-sitter-complications-of-parsing-languages

  • TL;DR: Tree sitter is a unified interface to parse text files, with parsers contributed by community for different programming languages/text formats.

    It is more powerful compared to classic Emacs approach with regexp matching, and thus can be (and is) used to provide more accurate fontification, indentation, and editing experience.

    Historically, Emacs also has a unified parser - Semantic, but it is rather complex and did not get traction, except for a subset of several supported languages. In contrast, tree-sitter language support is developed not only within Emacs - many more languages are supported by now.

• There was a demo demonstrating how to export texinfo manual to HTML with source code examples fontified as in Org mode

  • The motivation is limited Org support for manual authoring

    • ELPA, when generating manuals from Org sources, does not use the latest Org version, with some features lacking.
    • While Org supports org to texi export, only a limited subset of texinfo markup is supported, as Org is not specialized for manuals and does not have a notion of specialized markup like , , , etc
    • Also, Org does not yet support glossaries and indexes as well as Texinfo does. Though see https://github.com/tecosaur/org-glossary, which is an experimental implementation by one of the Org contributors.

  • One downside of texinfo is that code snippets are not colored

    • To solve this problem, https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize and Org publishing are utilized

      • The manual source is written in texi and then exported to html during publishing
      • The generated HTML is further processed (via ~org-publish-after-publishing-hook~), taking the code in HTML, passing it through ~htmlize~ (just like what Org does in ~org-html-fontify-code~), and replacing the HTML code elements with property fontified versions.

    • Unfortunately, the code was only showed on screen and no link was dropped to the chat. So, I am just leaving what I remember from how the code works (above).

    UPDATE from the author of the demo: You can find the code I use for adding highlighting to Texinfo examples here:

    http://git.eshelyaron.com/gitweb/?p=esy-publish.git;a=blob;f=esy-publish.el;h=cb103b78b7dd2f8d0f5260883b61bf651d0650f5;hb=HEAD#l394

  Namely, the function esy-publish-fontify-examples takes the name of an HTML-formatted Texinfo manual, and uses htmlize to markup the contents of "example" blocks in that HTML file.

  The result is very similar to the markup of source blocks in Org documents. For instance you can see some highlighted "examples" here: https://eshelyaron.com/man/sweep/Numbered-Variables.html

  • RMS previously suggested to work towards Org being a proper tool to write manuals, on par with Texinfo: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87bkqx4jyg.fsf@localhost/
    • We are far from there, but the direction where to go is known https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/87v8cmnspf.fsf@localhost/

• Ilya Chernyshov asked about his feature request on the mailing list: https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/T/#u

  • His workflow involves repeated tasks (habits)

  • Sometimes, he finishes a task in time, but sometimes he misses it: : * TODO exercise

    : SCHEDULED: <2023-10-08 Sun +1d>

    : :PROPERTIES:

    : :CREATED: [2023-10-01 Sun 01:25]

    : :LAST_REPEAT: [2023-10-10 Tue 02:08]

    : :END:

    : :LOGBOOK:

    : - State "DONE" from "TODO" [2023-10-08 Sun]

    : - State "MISSED" from "TODO" [2023-10-07 Sat]

    : - State "DONE" from "TODO" [2023-10-06 Fri]

    : :END:

  • The problem is =LOGBOOK= entry date

    • Org mode, by default, uses timestamp when the user changed todo state
    • However, for "MISSED" task, the date what the task is marked "MISSED" is not necessarily the same day it is scheduled
    • Ilya wants to be able to use =SCHEDULED= date rather than "today" in the log for certain keywords.

  • The feature might be implemented as an extension of ~org-current-effective-time~, which is already customizeable via ~org-use-last-clock-out-time-as-effective-time~.

• Nick Anderson asked about previously announced Karl Voit's podcast https://graz.social/@publicvoit/110986422932417006 where he planned to talk about Org mode

  • Karl Voit's blog: https://karl-voit.at/
  • We asked Karl on Mastodon: https://emacs.ch/@yantar92/111217525037662745
    • Reply: #+begin_quote

  The Informed Life https://theinformed.life/ is the first podcast that will publish an episode with me. The other will be in German and we don't have a recording date yet.

  [...]

  See also https://karl-voit.at/clippings/

  #+end_quote
  

• visuwesh asked about setting ~org-latex-title-command~ per-file in Org LaTeX export

  • There is no special in-buffer keyword to set it, but one can use
    • #+BIND keyword to set any variable during export (need to customize ~org-export-allow-bind-keywords~)
    • buffer-local/directory-local variables in Emacs
  • visuwesh's setting is rather long and would require adding a lot of boilerplate text to each exported Org buffer
    • Org provides a way to include common settings into exported file using =#+SETUPFILE= keyword. See https://orgmode.org/manual/Export-Settings.html
  • ~org-latex-title-command~ is a template, which Org can populate with AUTHOR, TITLE, SUBTITLE, KEYWORDS, DESCRIPTION, CREATOR, LANGUAGE, or DATE
    • visuwesh asked if it is possible to fill arbitrary document metadata to the template Like #+PROF: XXXX and then XXXX being adding to the template.
      • It is currently not possible.
      • One would have to use more generic facilities, like export filters to achieve this.

• excalamus shared his experience using Org mode on the newest Emacs Android port

  • To make things more touchscreen-friendly, he added custom toolbar buttons to move around Org buffers.
  • We had a similar idea in recent mailing list discussion: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/[email protected]/
    • Unlike excalamus' toolbar approach, the idea discussed on the mailing list was to add text buttons right inside Org buffer, below each heading.
  • visuwesh mentioned that Emacs Android is capable of running the usual Linux command line tools, when they are installed via termux
    • For example, one can install Git and then use Magit right inside Emacs on Android
    • Instructions: https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs/files/
      • For the time being (while Android port is not a part of an actual Emacs release), the above Sourceforge page is where the latest Android port can be downloaded: See https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/[email protected]/
  • Emacs (and Org mode) on Android is capable of displaying images, except svgs
    • There is some problem with Android svg library
    • As a side effect of lacking support of svg images (for now), Ilya's https://github.com/ichernyshovvv/org-timeblock will not work on the Android port, unfortunately

• On searching Emacs (and Org mode) mailing lists

  • https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/ has much better search functionality compared to https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/
  • https://list.orgmode.org/ is using the same "public inbox" software (https://public-inbox.org/README)
    • One can anonymously subsribe to Org mailing list via "Atom feed" link
    • Or even to specific Org mailing list thread by
      1. following a thread link (example: https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/T/#t)
      2. Clicking "Atom feed" link at the bottom of the page (https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/t.atom)

• A short discussion about the meetup timing

  • We currently stick to time zone comfortable for me, but we have at least one volunteer, who can be the host in Asia/Singapore time zone
  • Anyone interested in alternative schedule, please reply to https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/t.atom
  • Also, OrgMeetup is not the only Emacs-related meetup out there
    • We have a number of meetups in various time zones
    • See https://sachachua.com/blog/2023/10/2023-10-09-emacs-news/ or any other Sacha's Emac News edition.

:comments:

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[18:31] Ihor Radchenko : The official start 30 minutes from now

[18:49] Ihor Radchenko : random interesting urls: https://github.com/rougier/notebook-mode

[18:49] Ihor Radchenko : https://github.com/ahyatt/ekg

[18:49] Ihor Radchenko : https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/CANr+fmwRWfKpwVJWv4k2CLYczKNCuRqs4zZijRQ40K9r8YpmKw@mail.gmail.com/

[19:03] Nick Anderson : Several weeks back I came across https://khoj.dev/. Local (or remote if you choose) LLM and indexing of your notes. It's seeing a lot of change but when I first found it, it had specific org-mode parsing support.

[19:04] Nick Anderson : I can't say it's /usable/ yet, but interesting.

[19:04] Carlo Tambuatco : Hello

[19:06] Nick Anderson : The org specific parser (don't know if it's still in use) was headline level search against pytorch embeddings of your notes. Plain text is like fill file.

[19:08] Ilya Chernyshov : hi everyone

[19:09] Nick Anderson : Yeah, I have only used the offline models with it. Interesting, but at least against my corpus, not usable currently.

[19:10] Nick Anderson : parses md and org files out from Github but I coudn't actually get it to complete without running out of memory

[19:10] Nick Anderson : that was just their indexing that it coudlnt do.

[19:11] Carlo Tambuatco : LLama2 is the only LLM it supports?

[19:11] why : what emacs configurations do you recommend for a beginner who has just learned neovim?

[19:12] Nick Anderson : They are workign to add ability to change the local model: https://github.com/khoj-ai/khoj/pull/494/commits/a85ff941ca49538ac6090e4d891e72710737744f

[19:12] Nick Anderson : @why I came via Spacemacs (old vim user).

[19:14] Ihor Radchenko : https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs

[19:14] Ihor Radchenko : For people familiar with Vim

[19:15] Ihor Radchenko : another way is just installing evil-mode

[19:15] Nick Anderson : https://www.spacemacs.org/

[19:16] Nick Anderson : but claims are doom is faster, seems more popular. But I have used it since 2016 happily.

[19:17] Carlo Tambuatco : Lazy loading modules

[19:20] Nick Anderson : org-rich-yank doesn't get enough publicity super nice for notes on code etc ...

[19:20] я : why are you have slavic pronounsuation

[19:24] visuwesh : yes

[19:24] Nick Anderson : Yes.

[19:28] Nick Anderson : No.

[19:29] Carlo Tambuatco : Could you talk about tree-sitter (for newbies) and how well it works with older emacs packages? Does it cause any conflicts?

[19:30] Nick Anderson : I see your browser.

[19:30] visuwesh : i see firefox here

[19:30] Nick Anderson : No emacs.

[19:30] Nick Anderson : No emacs

[19:36] Ilya Chernyshov : Ihor, do you know if there's a way to log timestamps of SCHEDULED property, but not timestamps of current time in LOGBOOK each time I change TODO state of repeated task? I couldn't configure org-log-note-headings, because there's no such placeholder that inserts SCHEDULED property timestamp. Only current time timestamp can be inserted. Maybe there's another way of doing that? Also, I can send a patch that adds a new placeholder for that.

I already posted on list.orgmode.org about that 2 days ago, you probably saw the mail :D. I saw the announcement for the meetup half an hour ago and thought to ask you here

[19:36] Nick Anderson : Karl Voit had mentioned being interviewed on some podcast several weeks back, anyone hear any updates on that being released?

[19:36] visuwesh : Is there a way to set the title command for a custom latex class in org via org-latex-classes? I see that you can set a plist element for org-publish but not so for latex export. AFAICT from the doc and ox-latex, it is not possible. Right now, i set org-latex-title-command in a src block but something more compact and "preset" would be nice.

[19:40] Ihor Radchenko : For index/glossary in org export, see https://github.com/tecosaur/org-glossary

[19:43] Ihor Radchenko : https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87bkqx4jyg.fsf@localhost/

[19:44] Ihor Radchenko : discussion about making Org a replacement for texinfo

[19:47] Nick Anderson : thats neat

[19:47] Ihor Radchenko : https://orgmode.org/manual/The-open_002dsource-protocol.html

[19:47] Nick Anderson : orgit-forge maybe

[19:50] Nick Anderson : https://github.com/sshaw/git-link

[19:52] Ihor Radchenko : transform internal notmuch email link into mailing list url: https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#live-helm-org-ql-search-in-org

[19:52] Nick Anderson : nice, thanks.

[19:54] Ilya Chernyshov : here's the link with the example

[19:54] Ilya Chernyshov : https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/T/#u

[19:57] Ilya Chernyshov : the timestamp of current time is inserted when 'done in org-log-note-headings is configured as "State %s CLOSING NOTE %t"

[19:57] Ilya Chernyshov : the placeholder %t is somewhat useless

[19:58] Ilya Chernyshov : I want a new placeholder that is replaced with a SCHEDULED property before the state is changed. That way you can track when you've done/missed a repeated task

[19:59] Ilya Chernyshov : your mic is off =)

[19:59] Ilya Chernyshov : maybe that's on purpose, I dont' know :D

[20:02] Ilya Chernyshov : I'm so sorry, can I get the record of the meetup? I missed a small part of your reply

[20:03] Ilya Chernyshov : so sorry

[20:03] Ihor Radchenko : https://list.orgmode.org/[email protected]/T/#u

[20:03] Ihor Radchenko : this is the feature request we are discussing

[20:03] Ihor Radchenko : the possible way to implement it is via org-current-effective-time

[20:03] Ihor Radchenko : %t is already customizeable via org-use-last-clock-out-time-as-effective-time

[20:04] Ilya Chernyshov : thank you

[20:05] Ihor Radchenko : https://karl-voit.at/

[20:05] Ihor Radchenko : Karl's blog

[20:07] visuwesh : yes

[20:09] visuwesh : the thing is i would like to have something simpler than putting the whole command up there since my title command is quite large

[20:10] visuwesh : yess

[20:10] visuwesh : i need to set up a separate page as a title page for my assignment and the command goes around 20 lines or somesuch

[20:10] visuwesh : ah, that would work ig

[20:11] visuwesh : i was hoping to include some other template too, like the prof in charge of the assignment etc. but this is better than copy-pasting

[20:13] visuwesh : right, that's what i did except i imported a tex file instead for my bachelor's thesis/project

[20:13] Nick Anderson : This was where I saw Karl being invited to podcast: https://graz.social/@publicvoit/110986422932417006

[20:13] visuwesh : sry, i meant something like a keyword like #+PROF: XXXX and usesomething like %{PROF} in the titlecommand to say XXXX in the file

[20:14] visuwesh : yes

[20:14] visuwesh : ah, it is using format-spec, ok

[20:15] visuwesh : i will live with setupfile then

[20:15] visuwesh : i see, i will look into using export filters

[20:16] visuwesh : ty, that answers my qn

[20:18] Nick Anderson : Yep, I havent seen anything yet :D

[20:19] Ihor Radchenko : https://emacs.ch/@yantar92/111217525037662745

[20:20] excalamus : I have something to share in just a moment

[20:23] yantar92 (audio) : Po Lu is the author of Emacs Android port

[20:24] Nick Anderson : probably have to make Test the presenter.

[20:26] Nick Anderson : Neat, I have been living with Termux, which is OK

[20:26] Nick Anderson : all the other things exactly

[20:26] visuwesh : You can use software installed inside termux from Emacs Android if you have the 'termux' emacs android apk installed.

[20:26] Ihor Radchenko : https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/[email protected]/

[20:27] visuwesh : But I think you need to have a specially compiled version of termux too? And there's a specific order you need to install ter,mux and Emacs to have termux apps usable in Emacs. I believe the info is in the Emacs for Android port sourceforge webpage

[20:29] visuwesh : No, I mean to use softaware installed in termux in Emacs android

[20:30] visuwesh : https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs/files/

[20:31] visuwesh : https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/[email protected]/ i hope this is useful too

[20:32] excalamus : there are images included with emacs /share/emacs/29.1/etc/images

[20:32] visuwesh : somewhere down this thread, more explanation on this topic are included

[20:33] Ilya Chernyshov : do you guys now, if it's possible to display svg images in emacs android build?

[20:34] visuwesh : it is actively updated

[20:34] visuwesh : the code in savannah and the apks are built freqly in the sourceforge

[20:34] visuwesh : sourceforge uploads are from Po Lu

[20:35] visuwesh : you could try to see the iamge type of splash image

[20:35] visuwesh : its svg on my laptop

[20:35] Ilya Chernyshov : i'm talking about image-mode being able to display svg. if it's possible, I'll try to test org-timeblock on it

[20:37] Ilya Chernyshov : yeah, thanks, you can see it here https://github.com/ichernyshovvv/org-timeblock

[20:37] Ilya Chernyshov : :D

[20:38] visuwesh : C-h C-a

[20:38] visuwesh : M-x report-emacs-bug maybe?

[20:39] visuwesh : It should be possible since I think Po Lu sends and reads email

[20:40] visuwesh : Oops, sending idk. he only says read. https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/[email protected]/

[20:41] visuwesh : To check whether it is really supported, use ‘image-type-available-p’. :P

[20:41] visuwesh : in image-types docstring

[20:41] Ihor Radchenko : image-types is a variable defined in image.c.

Value (svg webp png gif tiff jpeg xpm xbm pbm)

Set

Documentation List of potentially supported image types.

Each element of the list is a symbol for an image type, like jpeg or png. To check whether it is really supported, use image-type-available-p.

[20:41] Ihor Radchenko : :facepalm:

[20:43] Ilya Chernyshov : that's bad

[20:43] Ilya Chernyshov : =(

[20:45] visuwesh : yhetil.org has MUCH better search functionality btw. I think the GNU mailman archive search is still broken :(

[20:46] visuwesh : its f:

[20:47] Ihor Radchenko : https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/

[20:47] Ihor Radchenko : Emacs mailing list mirror

[20:50] Nick Anderson : Thanks for doing this.

[20:50] Nick Anderson : And maintaining!

[20:50] visuwesh : Thanks everyone

[20:50] visuwesh : It is fine for india too

[20:50] Nick Anderson : I am in central us and i have it playing on the side while I am working.

[20:50] visuwesh : 11:30 pm rn

[20:52] Nick Anderson : There is Emacs ATX as well. https://www.meetup.com/emacsatx/

[20:52] Nick Anderson : Nope.

[20:52] Nick Anderson : Webex.

[20:52] Ihor Radchenko : https://sachachua.com/blog/2023/10/2023-10-09-emacs-news/

[20:52] Nick Anderson : It usually is.

[20:53] Nick Anderson : e.g. https://sachachua.com/blog/2023/10/2023-10-02-emacs-news/ :end:

I just read Mickey's wonderful article on window management, and has given me the push I need to take control over my emacs windows/frames. I have an idea of what I will configure; maximum of two windows per frame, and if is my portrait frame split horizontally and split vertically for my landscape frame, plus some additional config for Magit. Before I take the plunge, I wanted to quickly reach out to see what other people have done for their configs to get some ideas. Figure might also be good to collect a few different configurations of window configs for people interested.

Some configs I have found on the way and will update with any suggestions people have:

• Karthink's config, good integration with the popper package
• emacs-pure - has some display-buffer-alist settings for magit which are of interest to me, as the built in magit methods for handling new frames isn't exactly what I want.

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Any recommendations, please feel free to share them.

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