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I've had a certain debate a few times where you might say we argue over the "semantics" of the meat industry.

I am what you would call a vegetarian. While vegetarians won't eat things that caused harm to produce, a vegan won't eat anything having to do with an animal. A lot of those who would fall under the latter category hate us because they say anything that remotely resembles someone enjoying an animal product is supporting the meat industry which then kills animals, which means merely eating an animal product makes someone a murderer.

Meanwhile, there's this concept many call piracy. It's the idea that, as the meme proverbially puts it, "you can download a car". The idea here, which I say in the way I do because there's still an ongoing debate about it, is that it affects nobody. But then there's the whole industry thing I mentioned. People on the other side of the debate often say "well what about the industry". I'm not sure where on the scale in this topic you might put me, but I feel like there's a glaring contradiction here. When it comes to animals, people think of the industry, but otherwise that's not a factor.

My question is... why?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Online piracy is about getting free stuff while not having to face any consequences or look any "victim" in the eye. Getting free stuff is pretty rational at an individual level, even if it requires a certain level of willful moral blindness.

Same with vegetarianism. Meat is delicious and satisfying, even though we know eating a high-meat diet is bad for the Earth. It is perfectly rational for an individual to want to eat meat, but most of us don't want to kill the cow or think about the environmental costs, so we put that part aside so we can continue to eat succulent steaks.

Few things in life are 100% free of any potentially negative consequence. The ability to compartmentalize and hold disparate views is a necessary evolutionary adaptation to having a large brain. Otherwise, you would be paralyzed by indecision over the short- and long-term consequences of our actions.

[โ€“] MomoTimeToDie 1 points 1 year ago

Online piracy is about getting free stuff while not having to face any consequences or look any "victim" in the eye

True. I've yet to find the ability to look a nonexistent person in the eye.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you pirate I Love Lucy, there's no victim.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably true. And as soon as I Love Lucy, The Brady Bunch, and MASH become the most popular downloads, you'll have a great point.

Also, to be clear, I'm not against piracy. I subscribe to Gaben's view that piracy is largely caused by poor service. Its one of the few ways that average consumers can fight back against corporate greed.