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If I recall reading correctly, downvotes affect karma, but upvotes don't.

In case kbin introduces some kind of gamification rewarding system, isn't that counterintuitive, esoecially since both buttons are equally positioned?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's on slate to be changed I believe, but the focus right now is just on keeping the site up and running.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's best to view the current system as very temporary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh noes! I cannot has my imaginary internet points! sad kitty noises

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Boosts count as positive reputation currently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you can boost yourself!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's just tacky ;-)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Boosting is essentially retweeting. On Kbin that means it appears as a toot in your microblog. If you have people following you, boosting your post so they see it makes sense. In Reddit terms, it's like one-click crossposting to your profile/personal user subreddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, but the boost buttin is olaced elsewhere and not at the same level as the downvote button... and people usually click one of these two

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, they should put the downvote next to the boost and renamed to something more meaningful if it's not the opposite of an upvote. Everyone is bound to eventually get some amount of upvotes/downvotes, but boosts are not something given as easily (some people might not wanna use boosts at all!).

Then if something opposite to the upvote is wanted, add a different method. So we'll have upvote/downvote with no (or little) effect on reputation, and then something like boost/penalize.

The way it is now it kind of discourages participation in any popular topic if your opinion can be polarizing (even if it's totally respectful and valid) or if there's a significan minority of people who dislike what you said (even if most people upvoted it). Your reputation will be penalized, even when you are being polite, citing valid sources and your vote balance is still positive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Technically, it's supposed to be upvotes-downvotes, but boost and upvote used to be the same thing. The boost function is the older of the two, so when they got split, the new thing became upvotes, but the reputation system wasn't updated. That's what I understood from other comments elsewhere anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why do we have upvotes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin is under development... Why is the boost being used instead of upvote? I have no idea, but I do suspect a series of events definitely occurred for ernest to end up here. Will it change in the future, who am I to say?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel it's mainly because of the desire to integrate with Mastodon as well.
He explains a bit about that here: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/3

There's also a ticket about changing how reputation is calculated: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/80

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

oh is that how it works? i have -1 karma and i was so confused

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And I was under the impression it was in relation to all other comments and votes, maybe a ratio in how quickly those came in. And when I checked other accounts why they have minus Karma, I couldn't find an answer and thought they might have deleted those replies or posts. So it turns out it is a very simple system. :D I hope this changes, because if downvotes have an effect and upvotes do not, then it's broken in my opinion. But I understand that the site has to become stable first.

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