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Day 2 of the mens competition and what a great showcase yesterday was. Loads of offloads, skip passes, individual skills, and team wonder tries on show and a fantastic crowd. Personally a game every 30 minutes is too bloody slow to watch live, and the highlights were slow, but good for du biere if you were in the stadium I'm sure. Actually last time I was in SdF I couldn't buy a beer... Sarkozy!

Anyway, today we venture into knock out territory, so enjoy folks!

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Mens Sevens in the Stade de France from 2:30pm BST today. I have to confess as to not have watched much sevens since Scotland dumped their national team, but France rested DuPont over the 6n for today.

In the UK, only highlights and limited live on the beeb again this Olympics, but eurosport is pretty cheap for a whole month for those that would like to see 6 days of uniterrupted Sevens, and a whole host of other sporting goods

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EASTERN
New England vs DC
https://youtu.be/x796E28Kx7Q
NOLA vs Chicago
https://youtu.be/N6WXjicQE6E

WESTERN
Houston vs Dallas
https://youtu.be/d4IwXIkUdm4
Seattle vs San Diego
https://youtu.be/xyD_RjVEuCs

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Massive news for Moana Pasifika, probably the biggest signing announcement in the entire history of Super Rugby.

No idea how they can afford him, but I've seen some people suggest they picked up some new finance from somewhere. It'll be interesting to see where he plays, possibly at 7 given Inisi had such a huge season at 8 for them this year.

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Times in BST. Sorry SH. Wales already won by a point, so probably best match already done. Anyone want to predict score lines for the rest? Think I'll watch the Chile on iplayer later, not feeling the need to watch that one live

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My analysis: about bloody time. This should have been a wake up call years ago. The big worry: most these players had extensive super6 time. Will 'A' fixtures and academy matches yield something equivalent?

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Things I'd love to see!

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France to the rescue, fingers crossed he kicks on and makes a full Scotland cap. But what is really interesting (to me) is the use of facebook to get a job, not LinkedIn or an agent, and certainly not the SRU which have invested in him, and should have been able to offer a USA slot, but no super6 any more either. Anyway, I hope he enjoys D2

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Wow, some big accusations here. Some French players in 2018 had something similar in Edinburgh.

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Decided to tweak it from Summer Internationals bc its been freezing & frosty down here in my part of New Zealand!

  • Tonga vs Italy
  • Samoa vs Spain
  • USA vs Scotland
  • Canada vs Romania
  • New Zealand vs England
  • Australia vs Wales
  • Japan vs Georgia
  • Namibia vs Portugal
  • South Africa vs Ireland
  • Argentina vs France
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A feast of rugby tomorrow, anyone attending? Predictions welcomed, reviews also appreciate

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Anyone want to have a stab at a banner for us? 2023 makes us look a touch stale

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Consultation in the UK is a euphamism for a foregone conclusion btw. This must be Dodson's last act before he goes. It's also in the press release that pints and food are about to go up again too, in more words. And given a 3million black hole last year - it looks necessary.

The SRU are investing heavily in both pro teams, and it's paid off at one end of the M8. This should result in more season tickets for Glasgow next year, and there is a fourth home game in the november series. And the Super6 is gone, so another cost reduced. And surely a big boost with Taylor Swift at Murrayfield too. Personally I'd have stuck with a hiring freeze for a couple of years, and been a bit ruthless with some performance reviews rather than redundancies. That isn't a good look ever, and smacks of incompetence with hiring and strategy

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Hooray! Maybe we'll see actual national sevens return now that GB Sevens has been exposed as a crap idea

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Mmm, salt is my favourite flavour

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Semi finals, finals, international friendlies, England playing in Japan, Wales playing 'home' in Twickenham. A Barbarians match, we've got it all today folks!

Predictions in the thread before. Reactions after appreciated also

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Woah, a potential sell out will not be easy for Glasgow to overcome. Fingers crossed! C'mon Glasgow!

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Relegation battles are back in England. Is this the reason for England's international woes? Find out next season!

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Development tour reinforced here. And playing Canada, USA, Chile and Uruguay you can see why Toonie is blooding new players rather than relying on old. Here's hoping they go well, and that all opposition turn up and give us good games. Fantastic to see Scotland continue a tradition of touring smaller nations and growing the game

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16354103

Heyneke Meyer has confirmed his desire to take up a coaching role in South Africa when he returns from a stint in the USA at the end of this year.

Meyer currently serves as the director of rugby of the USA’s Major League Rugby side Houston Sabercats, having taken the team’s coaching reins in 2022.

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Figured i'd write up a summary similar to the end of the round-robin.

The Losers:

8 - Rebels: Both a sad and successful way of ending the club. First time making the playoffs, last time playing a game. Some might argue that they spent a lot of money and didn't really get competitive - 8th place was earnt on 5 wins, 9 losses. But they actually played really well at times during the season. Maybe without all the off field stress the slump in the back half wouldn't have been so bad. A decent squad, coached fairly well - but trying to break the sporting market in Melbourne is tough. Even the NRL only has 1 team there in a city of 5 million, vs 9 in Sydney and (sortof) 2 in Brisbane. So small crowds probably leans into weaker home performances. Sad to see them go - the fans they did have were passionate, no idea who can replace them.

7 - Drua: From some of the smallest passionate crowds to some of the biggest. The Drua are near unbeatable at home in either Lautoka or Suva, and even in the quarter final against Auckland their fans were so loud it almost felt like a home game at times. 6-8 for the season, if they can find a way to consistently win away from home they will easily get a winning record and if they ever got a home quarter or semi, they would be hard not to back to go further. Everybody loves the Drua, and hopes that Moana Pasifika can replicate it!

6 - Highlanders: Like the Drua, a 6-8 season, the weakest kiwi squad struggled with injuries. When Rhys Patchell was playing they looked like a classic attacking NZ side. When he got injured out of the season up stepped Cam Millar and they went to a simple, old school game of slotting 3s and grinding teams out. I kinda loved it; especially de Groot's nonchalant one arm salute to the posts whenever the referee gave a penalty within 40m. Finally got a win against an NZ team after a long drought, and with a group of younger players maybe they're finally getting a development pathway that catches up with the rest of the clubs. If the playoffs are reduced to 6 next year and the Crusaders aren't having another shocker, they'll struggle to make it.

5 - Reds: The Reds are the only losing quarter finalist to have a winning round-robin record at 8-6; there's a lot to like about them and their young players will have a lot to draw from in future seasons but boy did they manage to crap the bed at times this season. Particularly away to teams they should have been beating. 31-40 away to the Force, 17-14 away to Moana Pasifika after a bye week. You can forgive the losses to the Drua and the Highlanders on the road but to be serious title contenders they'll need to find a way to win one of those and also win home games against teams like the Blues or Brumbies. Possibly their worst result and why I backed the Chiefs 20+ was only just beating the Waratahs who'd only managed wins against the Crusaders before that match. Les Kiss seems like a great coach though and I expect them to do pretty well next year.

The Semi-finals:

Well, given how dominant the top 3 teams were this season (all 12-2 records) its no surprise that with home field advantage the Hurricanes, Blues & Brumbies all made it through. The Chiefs went 9-5 but made light work of the Reds at home in what was in a way the least competitive of the 4 quarters. The Rebels really made the Hurricanes work in the first half, and the Drua and Highlanders competed for a time as well before succumbing to classier outfits.

None of the scores were close but they were decent matches; just fairly predictable results given the top 3 teams had double the wins of their opponents! Most of the crowds were on the low side, but the Aus-NZ games tend that way so maybe a bit of a disappointment but expected.

Blues - Brumbies: This should be a cracker; two great forward packs and direct teams going hammer & tongs. The Blues might be without Tuipolotu which will be a big loss he has been huge at lock for them this season; and Akira Ioane also picked up a niggle. Tricky to pick a winner so maybe just go with the home field advantage? Probably one of those games that needs the squad announcements before making a confident pick. Lolesio & Tom Wright have been great for the Brumbies this season so their backline is working well with a settled midfield combo too. Plus Rob Valetini's floor for performance is so high it's easily other player's ceiling. They have 1 Magpie in Ollie Sapsford so if they weren't Australian i'd be tempted to back them.

Hurricanes - Chiefs: The 'canes had 4 of my Magpies on the field at once in the quarter so I almost felt like supporting them. Don't know how many people they had at the stadium in Wellington - maybe only 9-10k, but i'd like to think if they'd made a bold call and held the quarter up at McLean park they'd have packed in 13,000 or so which would have looked & sounded cooler. Anyway, the Chiefs have under performed this season and failed in consecutive weeks against the Hurricanes at home, then the Blues away. But they only lost by 3 against the 'canes and can take a lot from how the Rebels used and abrasive defense and heavy work at the breakdown to limit the Hurricanes opportunities. I still think the Hurricanes have enough on defense to hold the Chiefs out, and more on attack to pick up points. If they get a roll on could even be a 13+ win, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs clinched a tight one.

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Figured i'd share my thoughts on how the season shook out and what's coming up in the playoffs. Indulge me!

The losers:

12 - Waratahs: Even more injuries than the Crusaders, they've sucked for a few years now and just didn't have the cattle to compete. Maybe next year if they can pick up some decent players from the Rebels.

11 - Moana Pasifika: Some people rate this year as a bit of a turnaround with a better coaching setup. I'm not sure I see it. They beat the Drua, Reds, Force & Waratahs at "home" but were pretty woeful on the road, including a big game playing in Tonga. They desperately need a real home base (or at least a couple of bases they visit regularly outside of Auckland) and I suspect if SR can't find a 12th team for 2026 they might get dropped for a 10 team comp.

10 - Force: Of the losers, the Force actually looked pretty good at times. It feels a bit weird due to the allegations which he was acquitted of, but when Kurtley Beale started playing for them, the combo with Donaldson at 10 looked really good. Still they only managed 4 wins - even if they looked hard to beat at home.

9 - Crusaders: an awful season which the last few rounds showed was more to do with personnel being unavailable than anything else. Take Whitelock, Mounga and Jordan out of a team and they'll lose some stars, but then ask them to do without Taylor, Barrett, Blackadder, Burke and Havili as well and decimate their coaching staff for Razor's benefit. It shouldn't have been a surprise they struggled to win, let alone dominate. On the bright side, their loss was Super Rugby's gain - I think the interest in the comp comes from the unpredictability and SR should strive to ensure no team can dominate like that again, for the benefit of the comp itself.

The Playoffs:

SR has been a season where the top 3 have been awesome - all with 12 wins, then there's been a logjam in the middle until the strugglers who've all had 4 wins except the 'tahs on 2. That makes most of the quarters a little uncompetitive, but still...

Chiefs - Reds: There's a lot to like from the Reds this year, but they've been really inconsistent and away from home its hard to see them tipping over the Chiefs who've looked good whenever they're not playing the Hurricanes & Blues. Actually to be fair, they've looked ok against them too, but those two are on another level. Hurricanes - Rebels: The Rebels form over the last half of the season was awful, I see them getting stomped here. Hurricanes have been too good on attack this seasons. Blues - Drua: Everybody knows the Drua are incredible at home, but away they kinda suck. The Blues play a very direct & physical game, they should have even more players coming back for the playoffs and should have a dominant win. Brumbies - Highlanders: For a while there it was a chance that the Brumbies could take 2nd, or maybe even 1st place. They are near unbeatable at home. The Highlanders have had huge injury disruptions and have been solid enough but are unlikely to get past this round.

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I guess punditry isn't working out for him with his current image woes. Couldn't find an english source for this one.

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Well, fuck. Any ozzies want to chime in? Not a vote of confidence ahead of 2027

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Final tomorrow, on ITV @ 3pm. Can't wait to see Leinster bottle it yet again!

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