midnightspire

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've spent the past few months revising and reworking some core mechanics, filling out skill sets, and improving the GUI and QoL. This week I am starting design on the final dungeon, which has been challenging to work on. Since it's the final dungeon, I feel like I need to step up the complexity while still keeping up with thematic elements, so it's going more slowly than the simpler early levels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The very first game I can remember making as a kid was a dumb space shooter that I made with Game Maker for MS-DOS (no relation to the modern Game Maker), but the first one I released to the public was a basic platformer called Godawful Quest. It was made for the "I Can't Draw" game jam in 2019, which I saw as an opportunity to finally release something with no pressure to make it look pretty. The whole thing also ended up being a metaphor for a lot of my frustration in trying to make games up to that point.

The most important thing I learned from it was how to scope and finish something.

It's not necessarily worth playing, but here it is anyway:

https://midnightspiregames.itch.io/godawful-quest

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a hobbyist working with Unity. I have messed around with making games in some form since I was a kid, but only got serious about it as a hobby some years back. I started out biting off way more than I could chew, but eventually started over, did some game jams, and started actually releasing games. I'm tired of jams for the time being, though, so I am taking another stab at a more long-term project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm working on a traditional (Wizardry / The Bard's Tale-style) dungeon crawler with magical girl and horror themes. This is only my second RPG, building on the groundwork from the first, so it is still relatively simple. It's decently far along, but it is my biggest project so far by a wide margin, so there is still a lot left to do. I realize that it's a niche game that probably won't appeal to most people.

I mostly post bits and pieces on Mastodon. Occasionally I post a bigger devlog on Itch, but I'm not very good at those and I don't know if anyone really reads them anyway, so I don't do it that often.

https://midnightspiregames.itch.io/minerva-labyrinth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The comment count also mystifies me. Several topics have a higher comment count than what actually appears in the topic. Since I only see that count when browsing directly from lemmy.ml, and therefore not logged in, my language settings can't be the issue. I don't know if there are comments that I can't see or if the count is just wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t want to pan them, as it is always easier to be the clever one afterwards: But imho their idea proved to not work out. “Indie”-Gaming, “Social”-Media and the Internet in general opened up channels to avoid the publishers and big conglomerates, but the structures that they criticized where mostly just replicated in a weakened form as the rules of the market still apply (you already pointed this out in the OP).

Something that frustrates me about the discussions around indie game development, both in the community and in published articles, is that a lot of it focuses on money and marketing and on development primarily as a business venture. If you just search for "indie game cost", the first results will ludicrously tell you to expect to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars making one. The games media in general is guilty of conflating "indie" with "professional," partly because articles about glossy, pretty games get the most attention from readers, but also because games that have 800 square foot booths at PAX take a lot less effort to find and cover than obscure freeware on Itch. It's basically in their interest to push hobbyists out of the conversation, unless it's some viral streaming hit that they can similarly exploit.

It is upsetting to see so many stories of people quitting their jobs and living off of their savings to develop and release a game, hoping to be able to make it into their new full-time job. I sympathize with the people who don't make it, but I don't think it's a wise decision. Designer R implicitly cautions against doing this ("They are made at night, on weekends, during vacations or whenever one can... in essence, it costs little or nothing to make a scratchware game"), though Designer X might be romanticizing subsistence living a little too much.

The scratchware folks didn't really seem sure how their work could be distributed; maybe they were hoping to sell it in ziploc bags in local bookstores, like some of the very early pioneers did. I think though that they definitely did not foresee indie games exploding as much as they have. There are literally hundreds of thousands of them, of varying quality and states of completion, and the underground manifesto points out that this is a huge problem for discoverability. The scratchware people wanted to sell their work as an alternative to AAA productions, but they were not anticipating nearly infinite competition in their space. Indie developers still ironically rely on the loudest media voices to make themselves visible, whether that be streamers, the traditional gaming press, or even just favorable storefront placement. The people with the biggest platforms still have a lot of power to dictate other peoples' success, and they use that power to further grow their own platforms, not spotlight deserving creative works. If they didn't prioritize expanding their own brand over everything else, they wouldn't have large platforms to begin with.

I get it; if you make a game, you want people to play it. And I don't begrudge people wanting to make a little bit of money from their thousands of hours of hard work, any more than I begrudge people selling handmade jewelry on Etsy. But most of us will never be lucky enough to make a living solely from our personal art, and even established professional independent studios are often only one failed release away from shutting down. I think it is a mistake to go into this hobby (or really any hobby) with a primarily commercial mindset.

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The Scratchware Manifesto (www.homeoftheunderdogs.net)
 

If you have been around for a while, you may remember this article. It was written in 2000, right about when games were getting to be really big business, but long after the age of shareware, and long before the indie explosion (which I would put at starting around 2008 or so). It is basically a screed against the state of the emerging AAA industry, much of which is still true if not even worse, and a call for smaller teams making cheaper, smaller games.

The term scratchware never caught on, but I think a lot of modern indie and hobbyist works fit into it. On the other hand, some of what we call indie projects are now as bloated and expensive as the AAA projects of twenty years ago.

The central summation is this:

The phrase scratchware game essentially means a computer game, created by a microteam, with pro quality art, game design, programming and sound to be sold at paperback book store prices. A scratchware game can be played by virtually anyone who can reach a keyboard and read. Scratchware games are brief (possibly fifteen minutes to an hour or so), extremely replayable, satisfying, challenging, and entertaining.

I think this is a little too confining, but it was written 23 years ago, when games were almost solely distributed at retail. A broader definition would be more suitable for the digital distribution era.

The underground games manifesto reminded me of scratchware. How do you think the two compare? What ideas do you agree with and disagree with?

 

It seems that Lemmy instances don't work well with each other. Following a community from another instance is finicky, and after following, threads and comments still don't show up unless you manually pull each individual URL into your own instance.