Debian users waiting 4 years for an update:
this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
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Debian: you guys are getting updates?
Android-x86: you guys are still getting support?
Symbian: you guys still exist?
Me running debian-testing
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I don't need to wait. Debian works great with unattended upgrades and I don't have to care. Debian will literally run for years without anyone logining for maintenance. It just goes.
I was just joking
I know but I am just impressed with Debian
I've used Debian before, I personally see it as the greatest Linux distro (Arch is just better for my use case)
Gentoo users waiting 12 hours for the update to finish (Firefox is updating)
I compiled Firefox from source on my laptop for shits and giggles one time. Poor i3-5005U took a good 24 hours to do it
Arch users using Firefox nightly (it's only in the AUR and needs to compile every time)
What? 6 fck'n hours? That's so outdated I'd call it LTS!
Fedora users waiting 6 hours just for the update process
I'm flagging that AUR package and you can't stop me.
Ubuntu's updates keep up with Debian's snail-like stable version. In over 10 years using Ubuntu-based distros, I've seen very few app updates ... even between major updates.
Debian's unstable may have more updates, I'd guess. (I might actually try Debian 12 soon.)
And there's always the PPA route. I'm usually busy using current app versions, and so don't often understand that 'bleeding-edge' approach (esp. with all the memory and cores we've got.)
Gotta admit that Arch is what keeps the Arch Wiki a super resource!
I run arch and have VERY few problems. I have way more problems on my work ubuntu computer because I'm forced to add PPAs to get even remotely modern things like git versions that support this https://git-scm.com/docs/git-config/#Documentation/git-config.txt-pushdefault
I think it's totally inappropriate to be using a non-rolling release OS as a desktop. You're way more likely to run into issues when you massively update your system every 6 months - 3 years, rather than keeping things up to date constantly. It's not like anyone tests the upgrade process on a desktop. They just do it one day. Whereas it makes sense on a server to be more cautious about updates, where there's presumably staging environments, etc.
Oh yeah, I don't doubt Arch is solid, just different strokes for different folks. I got a bunch of stable apps I use all day every day to get stuff done, including some coding and keep up. Solid OS for my needs, no racing stripes, does what I need -every- day. I invest my limited OS time in maintenance/backups.
I recently began moving to Mint 21 from 3 NO-TROUBLES years in 19.3. Install from ISO in 20 minutes, copy my apps & configs over, done. Just as with 19.3. No doubt about smooth sailing. Point releases every few months, done in 5 min. Support 4 more years.
I just don't understand what problems you think you're saving yourself from. If the latest version of a package has a bug or just doesn't work for some reason, just install an older one. It takes 2 minutes, and you get to use software from this decade with modern features.
I didn't mention any problems I don't have. I just don't waste time on updates I don't need. I already have the older one, and it works just fine. (Now and then I hear of a new version that's better, and switch to it.)
Besides, we both know that sometimes updating Linux software does create problems ... which is proven by the existence of Arch Wiki ... and Debian stable ... or force us to relearn some 'improved' features (prime example: KDE's 'Kate' editor.) And don't get me started on Gnome.
Anyway ... so long as you're enjoying yourself with Arch, good for you.
Ubuntu beta testers wait for 6 months. The rest of us wait for 2 years.
Beta testers, thank you for your service!
I came home and ran sudo pacman -Syu. My system was already up to date.
I haven't even updated to the current LTS yet.
Me either everything is working just how I like it and I'll just leave it at that
Yep, don't have the headspace right now to deal with any issues that pop up, and TBH Canonical's flavor of corporate-ness kind of takes the excitement out of getting updates, too.
6 hours? I get disappointed when I don't see another update within 6 minutes