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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh ho! Wait til Fox News finds out about his tan suit! Oh man, they're gonna drag him for weeks about that! Ha ha!

Ahh Fox News sure does hate tan suits. And news.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet he likes dijon mustard too...

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God it's so hard to believe that the same people who got outraged at Obama for having uppity fancy dijon mustard instead of honest earnest working class yellow mustard, would also go on to worship the man who shits in a golden toilet.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It was never about mustard or suits but I think we all know that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wow. I knew the suit was a thing for these people, but I had no idea they got all run up over mustard.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that is one hideously tailored suit. Like JC Pennies 'mail out to adjust off the rack suits' look better.

he'd look more professional if he was wearing fetterman's hoodie....

[–] eestileib 3 points 1 year ago

He did just come out of a 3.5 hour screamfest, so a little rumpling is expected.

But it's the wrong size, the tie is hideous. Jim Jordan won the clothes battle today for sure.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Only if your skin is darker than the suit

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It still baffles me that out of ~~535~~ 435 house members, 8 of them are running the show

[–] ikapoz 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Put slightly differently. Eight members of the house can cause total gridlock because the other 427 can’t even countenance taking a single step of compromise - and not even compromise on an actual law - compromise on the person who presides over the process.

The problem isn’t really the eight. The problem is that the process has gotten so fucked we can no longer work around a 1.8% nut job rate.

Edit: math

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (12 children)

While you are kind of correct, grouping the democrats in as part of the group that won't compromise is not fair. They've come to the table with demands for compromise, and they didn't start this problem so it's not theirs to clean up. It's the right and moderate right that aren't compromising.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Indeed, the problem has been that Democrats have been compromising to keep the government running for decades, and it finally came to a point where the other team decided they could start getting away with anything.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Democrats are open to compromise.

They have indicated that they are willing to support empowering McHenry until January.

Democrats are also willing to support other Republicans as Speaker, provided Republicans offer something in return.

But they aren't willing to support election deniers (like Jordan), and they won't support people who previously reneged on deals with Democrats (like McCarthy).

Not that it matters, because Republicans refuse to support anyone who needs Democratic support to become Speaker.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

But they aren't willing to support election deniers (like Jordan),

I just want to say that while people who refuse to acknowledge that Biden won the 2020 election should be rightfully called election deniers, Jordan's role is so much more involved: he actively attempted to get the election decertified and throw the vote to Trump.

That makes him at least one of the figureheads of an attempted coup d'etat, someone who tried to end democracy in America in order to install an unelected leader in the White House.

If he had succeeded, America today would no longer be a democracy, a nation where the electorate chooses its representatives.

If it was up to Jim Jordan, we would now live in a dictatorship, with Trump as the unelected ruler who would no longer be beholden to the will of the people or the rule of law.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

this shit show is made by republicans, continued by republicans and is entirely republicans fucking it up. Considering McCarthy failed to abide deals he had already made, why should democrats trust him to honor a second deal?

if republicans were even nominally bipartisan- like, you know, any reasonable body would be if the majority was led by exactly 4 votes- we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

If the number of seats in the House had not been frozen a century ago, this would not be a problem as it would provide representation proportional to population (as outlined in the US Constitution), rather than artificially amplifying the voices of low-population states. As it stands, citizens in Wyoming (pop. ~577k, 1 rep) have any twice as much representation per capita than those of Delaware (pop ~1.003M, 1 rep), while both have a single Representative. Compared to California (pop. ~39.24M, 52 reps), which has a ratio of 1 rep:~755k people.

There is, to be said, an issue of maintaining the level of proportionality originally intended (1 rep : 30k people). This would require over 11k representatives today. However, using the "Wyoming Rule", where the number of seats is proportional to that required to provide one Representative per population of the least populace state (currently Wyoming), the number is only about 575. That's much more manageable and would do a better job of providing equal representation and making gerrymandering harder.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 435 in the house and 100 in the Senate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. To be honest the website FiveThirtyEight always fucks me up on that number for some reason

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are the number of electors in the electoral college when electing a president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also the number of votes needed by Gore to win florida in 2000. Unhappy little coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because McCarthy gave away guaranteed power to avoid compromise with any Democrat.

McCarthy made the deal that allowed the 8 to oust him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

In an ideal world, the speaker is supposed to be the most centrist person, but when you have parties of hardliners and refusal to make comcessions, you get the shit thats happening right now.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t get Gaetz’s constitutional argument. The Constitution only has this to say about the Speaker role:

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and Officers

It hardly seems like a “desecration” to let the House choose a temporary speaker.

I know, I know, it’s shocking that Gaetz is not a serious person.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

His comments are probably based more on the traditions and history of the House rather than any written law, House rule, or even Article of the Constitution

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Remember when Republicans obsessed about running government like a business?

In the real world, this level of incompetence gets you fired.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's not incompetence; it's sabotage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Running like a bussiness: fire everyone who knows what they are doing, hire cheap replacement, present huge cuts to spending to prop up stock price, sell all stock at high, flee before the company implodes. Repeat.

[–] Sabre363 7 points 1 year ago

In my experience, incompetence invariably gets one promoted to a position where the incompetence can be blamed on someone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ha! You wish. It just as often gets you promoted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not when daddy owns the business.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Including voting for Jeffries?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Own the libs by giving Jeffries the one job that no sane Republican wants

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gaetz/Martian: Ack! Ack ack ack! Ack ack!

Reporter: Sir? We can't understand you. Why are you talking like this?

turns top of his watch

Gaetz/Martian: TREASON! GAETZ NO VOTE! MCHENRY BAD!

shuffles off weirdly

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're ruining that movie for me. I hope you realize that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao. Sorry. People see the five-head and see Butthead. I see a Martian.

I'm still in shock someone accepted money to sleep with that.....thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

honestly, always see a can of crisco with a corpse's face stretched around it. But, totally understand the comparisons you're relating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Pretty much

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its so hard to parody republicans when the reality is them using light beer in their rhetoric of federal government operations

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gaetz is a fucking drunk that had his daddy make his DUI problems go away. I can't say I'm surprised he relates everything to beer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's was just weird to read

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

C'Mon. we all know That Kavanaugh likes a good light beer....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz (R) said he will do “everything possible” to prevent the empowering of Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.).

Gaetz was one of the eight Republicans who sided with House Democrats to remove former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif) from his role earlier this month.

Now, as the House has gone weeks without a Speaker amid multiple crises like the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict and a looming government shutdown, some in the lower chamber have considered a resolution to give McHenry more power.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who recently faced two failed attempts to gain the gavel this week, is also reportedly planning to back a resolution to empower McHenry.

“I will not sit back and watch a complete betrayal of the GOP base with this ‘plan’ that’s being discussed,” Boebert wrote on X.

“I ran because I was sick and tired of politicians coming up here and cutting deals and releasing ‘holier than thou’ statements about why we just had to accept it.”


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