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A screenshot, taken way before rexxit, of two comments on reddit, dated "1 year ago".

The first comment is by a deleted user and the comment has been removed. The second comment is a reply to the deleted comment and it says: "That solved it. Thanks!"

Edit: added temporal context.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (17 children)

This is why I'm not deleting my reddit posts and comments. It's not worth making the whole world a tiny bit worse just to punish one company.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago

I respect that, and if Reddit had handled the situation differently, I'd be inclined to agree. But I just do not want them profiting off of my contributions when they've shown such utter contempt for their user base and moderators.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why does one single corporation get sole ownership of your knowledge?

It's not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post elsewhere.

Your knowledge belongs to you, you have the right to take it with you when you leave.

Of course you have the right to be lazy and not do that. Or to say, "I am fine with leaving it for Reddit to sell".

But please don't attempt to belittle or minimize the efforts of those who are trying to make a stand.

You are acting like they are doing something wrong ("making the world smaller") when they are simply deciding that their knowledge will not be monetized by a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It’s not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post elsewhere.

If you believe that what you've learned is of value you have to both consider what you're saying and who can see it. If it's valuable Reddit is far more discoverable than a corner of the internet. It's not a matter necessarily of being "lazy", it's weighing the medium with the message.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post somewhere.

It's not easy either. Reddit sometimes has a particular set of posts that solve queries that are not even answered in stack overflow.

Reddit may have did a massive asshole move, but deleting those things might make things difficult only for people who seek the knowledge, not reddit.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is ensuring an information monopoly for an unethical, profit-above-else driven corporation making the world better?

[–] OreganoChampion 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saving the important posts, posting the question and answer to lemmy and then deleting those posts imo would be the most optimal solution. At least the information is available somewhere and not punishing people looking for answers to their queries.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are Lemmy posts discoverable from normal search engines? If not, then it’s about as useful as the information posted in some obscure Discord chat

[–] formatc 5 points 1 year ago

If Lemmy becomes the go-to place where the knowledge resides, “regular” search engines will adapt to index communities across the instances.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never posted anything worth preserving over there so my choice was clear lel

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe you didn't. But maybe there was that one thing that was stupid and meaningless to you that someone found great, and others might have also. I respect whatever decision you made though, I understand both sides. It should never have come to the point of people having to make such choices in anger and protest. For money.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

lel

Fuck have we really gone that far back? We'll be back to saying kek before too long at this rate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just old and set in my ways.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Na, they need to be punished and by extension the world can hate Reddit over it.

Also there is that website that lets you see deleted content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Still many people don’t know about the caching google does or archive.org unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Same I do a lot of tech support and noob assistance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You could post them here and delete them on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I came to the same conclusion too. Nuking my shitposting account before leaving was enough to made me feel guilty so I decided to keep the other account that I used for actual problem solving and proper discussions intact for the same reason you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All those posts are archived anyway, and anyone can create their own Lemmy instance once Reddit dies, preserving all the content from Reddit.

Reddit comments/submissions 2005-06 to 2022-12

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It looks like it was removed by a mod. If a user deleted it it would have in place of comment text rather than . This user also deleted his account but that wouldn't delete his posts/comments.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why maintaining your account there and keep deleting your comments/posts will destroy Reddit. Do it, you have the power.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I destroyed thirteen years of comment and post history. Is there any reason I should further maintain my account? I'm asking because if there's something more I can do to screw with their site via my account, I'm all ears.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure your posts are deleted, and sell it to an advertiser. Just look up where to sell. A 13 Year old account will make you a good bit of money, and it will in all likelihood be used to spam the site with an ad campaign.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man on one hand that would feel cathartic as fuck, and who would mind a bit of extra money, but I don't think I can bring myself to do that.

I still feel a bit ambivalent about deleting comments in general, like yes it hurts the company, but it also hurts innocent users just looking for answers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

weird to say but once i found a answer for a problem in reddit that wasn't solved/asked even in stack overflow.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

yes but at the same time -- isn't this worse for us, the users, as a whole losing bits of information like this? the fucks up top do not give a shit about any of this

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's every chance that's Reddit's fault and the comment with the answer was deleted within the last month as part of a "burn it down on the way out" protest. If you're coming from a Google search, it may be annoying, but if you're posting here about it, you can probably imagine why it was deleted.

I mass edited all of my Reddit comments to say "Deleted" along with a message that I do not want Reddit profiting from my content when they treat their community so poorly. I felt that was more constructive than simply deleting the comments (and risk the admins restoring it if I were to delete my account entirely).

Prior to the shitstorm, I was active in many communities and provided lots of answers to technical topics; those answers are now lost outside of any post archives out there.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just fyi, I took this screenshot a year ago. This was very common for years already.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Ah, yeah. lol. Morning brain fog had me thinking it was recent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

DenverCoder9

Actually worse, since you now know there is a solution. Even better when you find other links marking it as solved, that point back to the same place.

I didn't delete my comments. Mainly because Reddit had been renewing comments after deletion, so why waste my time over a thing out of my control now. But also just in case, for this. I doubt I posted anything very enlightening, but it's not for me to judge their value. Maybe someone did, and others would.

I just moved on, let things happen however they will.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I'm about to show my age here but this was a problem on forums before Reddit too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I know and I foolishly didn't consider that people might jump on the fact that this happens to have been taken on reddit (a year ago). Wasn't even trying to say anything about anything, just shitposting.

[–] DJKJuicy 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm really torn by this. Should all this data be preserved for the betterment of society, or is that what Reddit should get for killing their goose that laid golden eggs..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mass deleting comments is something that just makes us feel better. Reddit still profited off the post with people clicking on it. They just see a deleted message instead of an answer.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Lol. Like looking for obscure troubleshooting and finding what looks to be the answer on an ancient abandoned forum... Oh wait... Is that reddit now too?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Of course it's not just deleted, it's removed by moderators.

Typical Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Unlike the Great Library at Alexandria, the information contained in many reddit threads is actually available in other places and can be recreated - often by the same person if necessary and relevant.

I understand people not wanting to have that information deleted, but I think the analogy is a bit heavy. For many, it's a balancing act where the fundamental disagreement with reddit's cultural evolution outweighs the desire to participate in the knowledge repository.

I think many people were comfortable with their ideas belonging to the communities that spawned on reddit, and they viewed reddit's ownership as a necessary technicality for the platform to exist. Once reddit clarified that they intended to act on that ownership, many people no longer wanted to participate.

I think they have that right.

More importantly, who owns our thoughts in this space?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If it says removed doesn't that mean its a mod (or admin) action? My understanding is that it would say deleted if the user removed it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I see lots of them. Unpopular opinion but I think going back and deleting every single comment you made is an over the top method of protesting the API charges. Lots of interesting conversations are now gone forever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I gave advice on some smaller / niche, topics. I didn't delete the whole thing, only my most upvoted and/or most recent comments (I went all the way to december 2022, and every comment with more than 20 upvotes). Replaced it all with a link to my kbin.

It was kind of sad reading all the replies that were like "we should put this comment in the FAQ / this is the best comment / this covers everything". I was very throughout and loved speading what I learned, and it pains me a little the few times I lurked in those communities since moving to kbin and see lots of unanswered pleads for advice or straight up terrible advice being given...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think you're going to begin to see a lot of that on Reddit. I overwrote and delete my ~10 years of comments and posts before deleting my account. I imagine a significant number of others have/will too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just came from another discussion on whether it's a good or bad thing that others can still see the username on some Lemmy instances even after comments get deleted. What do you guys think? I'd really hate to be the person in that image who would likely be flooded by DMs asking for solutions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

On the one hand you have to be more careful. On Reddit I could regularly purge my account and that would keep privacy from most low hanging fruit. Allowing me to share a bit more than I normally would.

On the other hand you know this going in. Reddit used to be more private but dickheads like the Pushshift guy would try work around that and then offer to honor privacy, but ignore requests etc. So it BECAME more complex.

Though honestly anything you type should be considered public record and something you would be willing to say at a coffee shop. However I have had people select context and try and dox me. So I try and keep it just vague enough.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give me a direct link, please? I can get it for you from my personal archives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Appreciate the thought but this screenshot, as detailed in the description, was taken a year ago, when the comments were already a year old.

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