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Reddit will die off in stages. Slowly.

First the power users are leaving now. These are the mods and the major content creators (think Minecraft leaving)

Eventually they will piss people off again and the more common content creators will leave.

Then after reddit has worse and worse content, the users who just comment will leave.

After that there will be nothing worthwhile for the lurkers and they will leave too.

Reddit will then be a wasteland.

This will all take quite a while. Even Digg took time to die off.

After being a Lemmy lurker for a few weeks, I submitted a request for an account on an instance that manually approves accounts earlier this week. Just checked and confirmed that my account was approved. This was based on calls for engagement to help grow the community. While I've been here for a bit, here's my first participation. Ayo!

“That’s why we’ve spent the past few weeks threatening and strong arming them. Now please, shut up and get back to work.”

Reddit CEO calls unpaid moderators' concerns "noise"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOm_UKGyrZg

This is abusing volunteers. If there are 140,000 active subreddits and if 10% of the moderators hang up their aprons, then Reddit has 14,000 unmoderated subreddits. They can close the subreddits, pay someone to moderate, try to pawn them off on a new sucker, or have bots run the subreddits. The question is, in the meantime, will the spammers abuse Reddit like their mods are being abused by Reddit? Let Reddit deal with these problems. If you're a mod, why are you giving your time away for free to a company that doesn't care about you?

If you're a mod, I get that you care about your subreddit, but why waste your talent on someone who thinks your concerns are just noise?

The Minecraft Devs left Reddit:

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/minecraft-devs-leave-subreddit-due-to-controversial-reddit-changes/

Leave Reddit? To quote Din Djarin, "This is the way."

Moderators need to understand that Reddit doesn't care if you've been in charge of your /sub for 10 years. They have, can and will tell you how to run it. There's nothing for you to "negotiate." As far as Reddit management is concerned, it's "my way or the highway."

Part of ending a toxic relationship is figuring out that it's time to let go.

I love how their CEO believes - is absolutely convinced - that launching a crusade against his product's users and mods to be a winning strategy.

If they’re that important then pay them.

I completely understand Reddit wanting to be as profitable as possible, however it's the approach to the users, developers, and blatant lack of care, respect and transparency that got my back up - suspect a lot of people may be the same. Communities always move and change, no platform is too big to fail.

The sad thing is that the masses that are still on Reddit at this point dgaf and will likely stay on Reddit forever. There's a real problem of Apathy in today's culture when people are just jonesing for their fix of daily content/memes, or at the very least nothing that disrupts the status quo. They don't give a fuck about "ideals" or what corporations do or farm from them so long as their instant gratification and daily intake of said content remains unchanged.

A lot of Mods might be looking at all the work they have put into their communities over the years and think "I can't leave all of this." Which at this point, given Reddit Corp's behavior, is a sunk cost fallacy.

It's time to jump ship, or learn to live with the new reality. Which is really the same as the old reality, the thin veneer of civility has just been stripped away. This is Capitalism and it always turns out this way. Just look at how many products have been ruined, because someone, somewhere decided they needed more money. Anyone familiar with Hasbro's heavy handedness with Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons knows what I am talking about.

Man i really hope Reddit dies and people move onto decentralized networks, in time I'm sure we can figure out how to index a decentralized network for search engines completely replacing Reddit.

Kinda sad but platforms come and go.

Verge should give up on Reddit like we all did. It's a waste of energy.

Damn right. The admins I've worked with over at Reddit understand this, but spez seems to think he can get out of this without causing an entire mass exodus... and just let his communities bleed off and die. The community team at reddit understands how important both the users and the mods are, why doesn't spez?

I take issue with the next part of the quote: “it’s a symbiotic relationship”. No, it is not. Reddit gets value from the moderators, but the community the moderators have on Reddit could be anywhere.

Reddit is dead after this

Digg still exists as of today. The lack of moderators and content creators will probably lead to a bot / meme / political agenda factory.

I'll never understand the people who are hell bent on trying to get reddit back. No matter what they won't have a say in anything that happens, own anything, or even have a voice. I'm glad people are finally moving to an open source alternative.

Anyone else read the headline in a Tommy Wiseau cadence?

As soon as the threat was made all the mods should have quit. An unmoderated reddit would collapse in hours. It would have been glorious.

Reddit is going full Twitter and it's not going to end well for them.

They are going to lose a lot of good people and be much worse for ware over it.

Reddit can't run without its moderators and it can't monetize without data. I encourage everyone who's defected to Lemmy from Reddit to wipe their old Reddit account using Redact. I just wiped my old account of 15 years worth of comments and post history.

I’d dare say that reddit cannot survive without its content!

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite works great for backing up, then editing, then deleting your content from reddit.

I’ve used it on a few of my accounts and I’ve noticed the following:

• You have to baby sit it as occasionally it’ll display an error box you have to click on.
• You definitely have to run it a few times, across a few days, to catch everything.

It seems that (at least for my accounts, keep in mind) you have to edit the comment, then delete it. That way spez’ world of woe backs up the edit, not the comment.

EDIT: Oh! It’s a javascript that runs from the old site so it can be a bit funky at times. With macOS and Safari I’ve (as instructed) added the link to my bookmarks and sometimes I need to click it a couple of times before the UI comes up.