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  • Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday praised Elon Musk, calling the Tesla and SpaceX founder a “talented businessman.”
  • Putin was discussing Russia’s space program after a failed moon landing last month.
  • His comments come after Musk said last week that he refused an emergency request by the Ukrainian government to extend coverage of SpaceX’s Starlink satellites to Sevastopol in Crimea.
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[–] [email protected] 307 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Can we define Musk as a traitor now? He is actively interfering in a conflict in an active combat zone the USA has already picked sides in and sided with the enemy.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the very least, all government contracts and grants should be pulled from SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink, and any other Musk run businesses.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago

I say nationalize anything with a government contract. Starlink could be extremely useful to the military and musk shouldn't be in charge of anyone's Internet connection, defense contract or not. Military would still get to use it and people would have a taxpayer funded alternative to companies like Comcast.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Can we cut out the middle-part and just send him back to South Africa?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

South Africa has suffered enough

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or just lock him in a padded cell where they force him to listen to Die Antwoord 24/7.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If he actually did tell his company to take an action that effectively contravened official US policy (and it looks like he did), he broke the law. Specifically, 18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I am willing to bet that someone in the Ukrainian foreign ministry was aware of this law, and then had some pointed questions for the US State Department on whether or not Elon’s refusal to share intelligence should be taken as an official US position on the matter, and if not, why Elon/SpaceX’s behavior is effectively contradicting official US policy.

This should get interesting, and it could put Elon in some real legal jeopardy on a matter that the US tends to not fuck around with.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I am praying so! I have my popcorn ready and I can't afford to waste it. Lmao

But seriously, I really do want to see some Justice here. He is one man, a private citizen who directly involved himself in foreign affairs and I would believe, he technically committed an act of war by aiding and abetting Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dick Cheney is a war criminal and still walks free, and so does George W Bush, where the fuck do you think Elon learned that shit from? Ha!

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You know you’re a bad human being when Putin praises you.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're gonna make Steven Seagal cry

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he won't, it excersies too many muscles

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as he is provided a chair to sit in he should be fine with it.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's about the same praise he gave to Trump.

And just like Trump, Musk is a piece of shit as well.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's good reason to expect that Putin has some sort of hold over Trump- he fits the profile (bad at business, constantly needs money, will do anything for attention, has been mob-adjacent his whole life, has been actively groomed to be an asset by soviet-bloc intelligence services, etc).

Now that I see Elon getting the same sort of head-pat treatment, I expect he's in similar thrall and begin to wonder if that kind of public statement from Putin is anything but a public, encoded reminder that the leash is still there and if he doesn't behave it all comes tumbling down.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago

Tankies who simp over Russia are going to have an existential crisis.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you've got a murderous autocrat praising you, it should trigger an "I've made a huge mistake" response.

Not so for narcissists though - anything that boosts their ego is welcome, anything. Russia knows this, and plays the fuck out of it like a shit fiddle, Randy.

And useful idiots fall for it, like really powerful idiots. It makes me sad for humanity that such depraved sociopaths can still win out in this day and age.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

The twat comes from apartheid gem money. I don't think he minds getting head pats from Vlad.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how much Putin paid for Elon. I can't help but imagine it was as little as a scratch behind the ear and telling him that "he's a good boy, yes he is! Yes he is!"

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is a fragile narcissist, all Putin has to do is say nice things about Elon, and Elon will eat out of Putin's hand.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Russia bitch boy

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Praising Elon like a baby is part of Russia's war plan. That's the timeline we are in.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

When you do a job for someone and they only pay you in "exposure"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actual traitor Elon Musk.

And not just to something as banal as his country; to democracy, liberalism, international order and the value of human life.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Completely 100% not suspicious! Nothing to see here

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Putin should know to just shut up about him. He’s doing everything he can to be useful to Putin. Why implicate him by association? Just shut up and enjoy your tool.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably he is doing deliberately to trigger the US government, we bought one of your oligarchs.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Shocker; the guy who conspired with Russia to thwart Ukraine gets praised by Putin.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe. Musk seems like as likely to suck anyone's dick if it meant he got praise though. Like Trump, Putin make have dirt, but they're both very shallow people desperate for praise.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

pootin also mentioned, under his breath: "he's also really naive and never checks for cameras before he does objectionable stuff!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I mean, what else is there to know now? If Vladimir Putin is giving a person praise, they're likely a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

There’s totally a piss tape

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

holy fuck now it's highly official: Elon Musk is a greedy, degenerated cunt.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is such a fucking clown.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH TRUMP.

NOW MUSK IS MY BEST FRIEND.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If Elon really doesn’t have any alliances, he really knows how to put himself between a rock and a hard place.

Sucks I don’t give a fuck about billionaires or their miserable, stressful, apathetic, pathetic, shallow existences.

Live like a hedonistic die like one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He also called Prigozhin a "talented person" just after he had killed him. So Elon, don't get too comfortable.

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