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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'll keep repeating this because I think it's important

Wear safety glasses

Not sunglasses, or shades or prescription glasses

Wear actual industrial rated workers safety glasses.

If you get those shots in your face, you're going to lose an eye or both eyes. Safety glasses are designed for this kind of stuff and they actually work. It will stop those projectiles from damaging your eyes.

Cops all over the world are known to purposefully shoot people's faces and heads. After the fact they will just argue that it didn't happen, it was accidental, it was chaotic, it was dangerous, etc, etc .... it won't matter after the fact if you lose an eye or end up completely blind.

Wear safety glasses, they're easy to find and easy to use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

I use this face visor for practicing with a gun. I like how it covers the whole face, can accommodate my glasses, and isn't heavy. It can also be paired up with a forestry helmet I have, which means two impact barriers. Plus, the earmuffs if you need to preserve your ears. I can also stack on a basic carbon filter dust mask to deal with light smoke, though obviously a more rigorous (but expensive/unergonomic) solution would be better if things get serious.

I might invest in a pair of motorcycle pants, to provide protection for my legs and especially the knees. An LAPD jackass shot an Australian reporter in the leg with less lethal munitions.

[–] kata1yst 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Copying info from another thread:

Anything ANSI Z87+, sometimes written Z87.1+ (note the plus) rated or CSA Z94.3 rated are ensured to safely withstand a direct high energy strike.

ANSI Z87 (Z87.1) is a lesser qualification only meant for lighter duty. Use them if you can't find Z87+ or Z94.3.

I checked my local hardware stores and while Z87+ is fairly hard to find outside of places that directly supply contractors, CSA Z94.3 ratings are common under $10 but are less loudly marketed. Check the packaging carefully.

3M is a common and high quality supplier, but anything with an official rating is risking pretty severe penalties from OSHA and commercial liability, so really you should be able to trust them.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 20 hours ago

She's holding a massive and obvious microphone (let alone the cameraperson), and that cop very clearly turns to her and shoots her. I don't think there can be any doubt about what's happening here.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago

That’s what happens when our police are trained by the IDF. And we have zero accountability for cops, to the point that they feel perfectly comfortable committing crimes on camera.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

Oh NO! Who could have EVER seen this Coming from Trump's SECOND Term? FORTUNATELY if you Try to MURDER the Police he'll Pardon you!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

April 26 1992, there was a riot on the streets, tell me where were you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It was about a fucked up situation and the fucked up police
It's about comin' up and stayin' on top
And screamin' 1-8-7 on a mother fuckin' cop
It ain't in the paper, it's on the wall
National guard
Smoke from all around

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

I was probably on the 27th, given timezones

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg 7 points 19 hours ago

Kindergarten.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

Is she one of the “insurrectionists”? Must be, right? Otherwise why would a jackbooted thug shoot her? I mean she did provoke him, by ya know, showing the world what these fascists are doing. I hope there ends up being an honest to god revolution, and I hope all of these pigs are the first to go. Fuck them.

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg 2 points 19 hours ago

They consider these "non lethal", and thus will not be very restrained in their use.