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Utopia? Flying jetson cars? Mole people living underground? Everything’s on fire and humanity ends? I’m just curious about anyone’s thoughts in general πŸ˜€

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hot. Heat waves. Forest fires. Sea level rising. Floods. Droughts. Water shortages. Extinction of various animals and plants. Collapse of supply chains and resource shortages. Rising nationalism and distrust. Mass migration, mass starvation, mass casualty events.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, like today.

Can't really say I disagree.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We can read about all the observations, predictions and all in here after all and the media is decently active about writing on it too:

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_SYR_SPM.pdf

Iβ€˜m just hopeless that the "policymakers" are honestly doing much to avert it. There is even a hint in there on that:

Vulnerable communities who have historically contributed the least to current climate change are disproportionately affected (high confidence).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel you. I have an MS in Environmental Policy and it is hard to stay positive. I watch this video to remind me that strides are being made in the right direction.

https://youtu.be/LxgMdjyw8uw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] hoi_polloi 1 points 1 year ago

You can always count on situation's capacity to just become worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think OP asked for 100 tears into the future, not today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They did, but writing "the same as now, but worse", wouldβ€˜ve been a bit boring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some arid wasteland after societal collapse caused by climate changes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It’s supposed to be 108Β° F a few days soon in my area πŸ”₯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget irradiated by the climate wars

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not to mention the areas that would have been OK after climate change are devastated by mass migration of tens of millions more people than they could've sustainably supported

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll be long gone and I have no kids by choice. Hopefully the human race will be extinct and the planet can recover.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Big same. I've spent the last 30 years arguing (and voting) for sustainable policies and environmental regulations, but what little progress has been made is woefully insufficient. I did my best, but obviously humanity doesn't actually want to survive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I side step and ask how you feel about 20 years then?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to take care of my little corner of the world. Take care of me and mine, have enjoyable experiences, make memories and try to avoid being evil.

I can't do much about the big stuff (other than vote). It's going to get worse before it gets better (if it ever gets better) but no point worrying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like your attitude and feel quite the same. I hope you have a prosperous life!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know why anyone thinks flying cars are remotely a good idea. Between mechanical issues and shitty drivers you'll end up with missiles crashing into people's roofs all day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Plus, think of the constant noise pollution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine road rage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming by that point, you wouldn't have people driving anymore, it would all be automatic. Likely hooked into some sort of flight control system that would allow the vehicles to navigate around each other and avoid collisions.

Plus, look at it this way. Accidents are common now because roads restrict cars into shared paths of travel, requiring drivers to successfully avoid colliding with other people moving very close to them. If you are able to fly, you'd be able to beeline from point A to point B, distributing vehicles across a much broader area of travel. Plus, the added vertical axis means you won't even necessarily collide if your vehicle can just move up or down around potential midair obstacles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way the world is going, it will easily be Cyberpunk.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in Asia. It already is like that here.

No room to live, and no room to die. Hell is a kettle with a concrete sky.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Damn that is a bleak sentence, but poetically put.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that it will be more or less the same, but with more extreme weather and increased military conflict over resources. People will have their devices, corporations will have people working, bad governments will continue to strip wealth away from their citizens. Somehow, I think Norway will be fine, though I am not sure why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fish and Potatoes my brother, fish and potatoes...

[–] Ciari 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Giant ugly concrete buildings with tubes connecting them because it's too hot to go outside. Children haven't ever seen the sky except for in photographs. There are vents everywhere to keep the buildings cool, but it's still hot. The majority of social interaction will happen over the internet because everyone is isolated into their own "apartments". Thankfully, due to the mass pushback against billionaires hoarding wealth, everything will be cheaper. Everything gets delivered by AI robots/drones to families through amazon or some other delivery conglomerate, there is no in-person shopping. This includes things like groceries.

I really hope it doesn't end up like this, but based on how things are going, that's my unfortunate expectations for the future.

[–] taladar 5 points 1 year ago

Thankfully, due to the mass pushback against billionaires hoarding wealth, everything will be cheaper.

I am not as optimistic as you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well in that scenario, I think we surely would invent suits to let people at least go outside and perform tasks. Still bleak af tho and not too far fetched maybe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Bring on the stillsuits, Fremen and sandworms!!!

[–] pancakes 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very bleak. I see it going one of two ways, with neither being happy. Like today as well as historically, the most devious and cutthroat people make it to the top.

The first way things could play out is if the rich elites are forcefully kicked out of power and their resources are up for the taking. There's no way this can happen though until the middle/ lower class are pushed to their breaking point. Climate change will have led to the desertification of a lot of habitable land as well as the biodiversity crisis will have wiped out most pollinators making food production difficult. This would essentially be societal collapse, which means new devious cutthroat people will become something of warlords of small regions. Something like Mad Max.

The second way is if the rich elites continually find a way to consolidate power until we hit something of a sci-fi capitalism dystopia. Corporations and the rich will have so much power, personal armies, and influence that they act as nation states. They will do whatever it takes to hold onto their power and keep the rest of the people as poor, powerless, and exploited as possible while they sit in their ivory towers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not sure there will be life on earth in 100 years.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Man, I’m holding hope for mole people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fear we're going the idiocracy route. Lower and lower intelligence of the population in general.

[–] hoi_polloi 1 points 1 year ago

It's a policy level choice what's happened in that movie like selling the FDA to Brawndo or completely failing to provide education to all of the kids that guy had in the intro.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A full SolarPunk utopia ! The climate change is there by we are adapting to it. People are now living in community that still have a relatively advanced level of technology but they are focused on being substainable. However for most of the daily life the technology used is mostly low tech.

The concept of nature died with the ancient world. Because now everything is nature, the conceptual separation between nature and civilisation collapsed. Now cities, communities and fields or forest are interlaced, rather than exploiting their environnement societies are nurturing it. The food is local, there is a few electric trucks transportation is mostly done by bike and cargo bike. Everything is repairable, most of the energy is produced locally with renewables energy.

Overall we might have lost some material comfort but gained on the quality of life.

I know it's an utopia, I can't be sure that it's gonna happen but the one thing I can be sure it's that if we don't try it's never gonna happen. I believe that or current thermo-industrial civilization started to collapse but I believe that we can still have some very happy lives after that.

[–] hoi_polloi 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People riot against simple 15 minute cities already. I'm not that optimisticfor that level of forwards planning.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extreme longevity and good health, atomic precise manufacturing, if the climat didn't go to shit we'd be quite well off IMO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Extreme longevity and good health

Only to those who can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There is a great ~20 year old song where I'm from called Plus Rien. (Translates to Nothing Left)

Maybe not in the next hundred years, but the way things are going.. this song proves more accurate every time I listen to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No real way to know. If we assume technology keeps advancing at the exponential rate, we'll all be in the metaverse or bionic cyborgs or something. 100 years ago we had just finished WW1 where airplanes and tanks were a new technology. We went from telegraphs to near- instantaneous communications across the planet. We went from the old Fords to having self-driving cars. The internet was created and then eventually popularized and now we all have constant access to the internet in our pockets no matter where we go.

There are some things we can know for certain and others we can guesstimate. For example carbon emissions will have a noticeable impact in 100 years. The temperatures will be higher, there would have been some amount of sea level. Probably not enough to drown Miami but enough to cause serious problems for people all across the world. Our agricultural systems will be put under serious pressure as temperatures change and lower productivity in certain areas (and increase it in others).

I think the future will be good for countries like Canada / Sweden / Russia because global warming will more or less only help them. A lot of land will become better for agriculture / more habitable. Of course they will probably have to deal with some sort of refugee crisis from the global south.

That's of course assuming human society doesn't totally collapse / change because of nuclear war / some sort of terminator AI.

[–] hoi_polloi 2 points 1 year ago

We're already on fire everywhere in Canada and it's not even wildfire season yet. If all the tempofrost melts what will be left will be barren lands wholly unsuitable for agriculture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think the future will be good for countries like Canada / Sweden / Russia because global warming will more or less only help them. A lot of land will become better for agriculture / more habitable. Of course they will probably have to deal with some sort of refugee crisis from the global south.

I don't know much about this but I don't think that this is how global warming works ?

I think this misunderstanding is why the phrase "climate change" is preferred because "global warming" makes it sound like everywhere will be a few degrees warmer which is not really the case.

My limited understanding is that the average global temperature may be warmer, but that really just means the ocean surface will be warmer, which creates more severe weather patterns.

The big problems with climate change seem to be quite nuanced, in a nutshell more severe and less predictable weather patterns. For example here in Western Australia maybe 20% of the state is arable land with predictable rainfall. Suppose next year there's 50% less rainfall in that 20% of the state (it just rains somewhere else) - that's a catastrophic problem. 50% of the productivity, 50% of the water flowing into dams for industrial and household use. Suppose the following year there's 50% more rainfall than usual, falling on arable land where it hasn't rained for a few years - it washes the dry topsoil away again destroying productivity.

There was an episode about water scarcity on doomsday watch podcast - fascinating & terrifying. There's a phrase that stuck with me - if climate change is a shark then water scarcity is the teeth.

[–] gmatkins 2 points 1 year ago

Crowded. But KSP2 might be out of beta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Everything's dried out, devastating storms are ravaging earth, few people have survived and fight each other for the rare food. Wars have scarred the landscape. The largest animals that survived are the size of cats or rats.

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