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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This list seems a bit flawed, for instance on the travel line, Trivago is owned by Expedia in the US and Booking is headquartered in Amsterdam.

Also including BlueSky seems a little odd given the intent

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Re Bluesky I did some "I am not a lawyer" digging.

Bluesky is owned by "Bluesky Social PBC", a Public Benefit Company registered in Delaware.

Generally speaking it means when decisions about the company are made, they must take into account how that decision benefits their stated public value. I struggled to find the specific value wording, but let's assume it's a reasonable one for the time being.

Unfortunately being a PBC is basically voluntary, especially when you're still a private company. You can become a non-PBC with a simple board vote. (A public company would require a stockholder vote.)

Bluesky's board consists of four members, one of which is Bain Capital, aka the company funding Bluesky.

So Bluesky is absolutely a better alternative to Twitter. If everyone left Twitter and moved to Bluesky that would be a monumental improvement.

However Bluesky is not a non-profit company, as the above graphic states.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

How can you make appliances list without Miele?

If you are in the market for a vacuum cleaner do yourself a favor, go more expensive and get a Miele, especially if you have some carpets, most vacuums can do a job on hard floors, but damn the difference of vacuuming carpets either a cheap vacuum vs my Miele is night and day.

(Don't know about the rest of their products, but they are german and a family owned business)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

DON'T SPREAD STUPID SH*** LIKE THAT.

What a BS honestly, I am fully anti Trump but this does not help at all. Why? Some examples:

  1. You think supporting European faschist enablers (e.g. Red Bull) is better than [insert random US company here] is just silly.
  2. Do your homework: Capri Sun is German, not American, gosh.
  3. Blueeky is NOT non-profit, stop spreading misinfirmation
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)
  1. It still helps because you are buying european which is better for europe also you called every single company in the list fascist with this logic, a lot of them arent, idk what redbull did tho.

  2. It is german but pretty sure its sold by coca cola.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This list has some issues, Booking.com is Dutch and Philips' Consumer division is just a name that whitelabels other companies products and is owned by a Chinese investment company.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Booking.com is owned by an American company though

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (17 children)

And for software like Microsoft and Adobe:

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some more recommendations

Category FOSS
Media player mpv
Drawing Krita
Vectorial illustration Inkscape
Video editing Kdenlive
Music making Ardour
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Look, I love Audacity which is an awesome audio editor but it is absolutely not an alternative to Logic or Fl, which are DAWs.

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[–] VerifiedSource 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Completely missing are power tools and guns. So please buy Bosch, Festool, Hilti, H&K, Cz., Glock, FN.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I missed the "and guns" part of your first sentence, which made me think, "Whoa, I gotta get me a Glock power drill."

Good to know about Bosch, Festool, and Hilti, thanks for the info. My ancient Dewalt drill just started smoking, so I now know where to look.

[–] VerifiedSource 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you want something really good get Makita from Japan. Bosch has two quality levels green is meh to good, blue is very good.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Avoid American gun companies like Sig Sauer, and support Swiss and EU gun companies like Sig Sauer

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fun fact, Hilti, a Liechtenstein company, has 34000 employees. The country itself has 40000 citizens.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From clothing down on the right column, never seen any of these available for sale here in the midwest

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

They do not sell adidas in the midwest?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mmm... ditch Garmin, strap a raspberry pi + car battery to your arm, & away you go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

"just ditch apple, get an old rotary phone, tons of cable, top tier camera, and an ibm system 370 and lug them around instead." Was that your point? That garmin is literally the only one making gpses and watches?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You do know that RedBull is owned by a right-wing extremist in Salzburg who tries to undermine Austrian democracy with Servus TV the same way Murdoch and Springer do in Germany and elsewhere?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

As a American, I really do love Electrolux appliances.

Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a shame it needed someone like Trump to actually get European alternatives more attention. They needed attention way before Trump.

Also the food and drinks alternatives are a bit odd. Many brands on the European side I don't recognize, probably because they're pretty local to whoever made this list.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Consider buying Solovairs instead of Dr martens. They're basically the same, the main difference is that they are made in the UK in a factory that used to make Dr martens before they delocalized their production to Asia

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also: avoid AKG, consider Austrian Audio.

AKG is a popular brand in professional music and audiophile circles. It was bought by Samsung in 2016, who promptly drove the company into the ground, closed their Austrian facilities, and moved headquarters to America and production to SE-Asia. AKG's name is now used for brand recognition on Samsung's generic big tech garbage. Yes, I'm still salty about it.

Austrian Audio was founded by the actual engineers who worked at AKG, currently owned by a Danish audio tech company. They produce high-end professional headphones.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Somehow I don't use/buy any of these? Like from either side of the chart... I guess I'm doing my part?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One note on Bosch and the European car manufacturers: They're funding the Orbán government among others.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

More info on this, please

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Got me an AMD Tuxedo laptop and some Raspberry Pi's, and my gaming desktop is all AMD too. Fuck Intel and NVidia.

I was avoiding everything made in the States before it was cool

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