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Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't mind the design, but it's definitely not pretty. Like a pair of Birkenstocks, ugly but effective.

Hopefully once sync is up and running we'll have something both utilitarian and attractive on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah I stayed on old reddit because I like that every sub has it's on interface and personality. I used to visit lots of new subs just to see their unique design. Lemmy's interface is very sterile and boring to look at.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ummm... Servers can customize themselves all they want. It's decentralized FOSS, after all

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I got a bit confused: is that about the reddit app or themes of particular subreddits or something? When I first saw your post I thought you meant Lemmy was the one with overdesigned clutter. I was using old.reddit.com for web browsing and Redreader as a mobile client, and had subreddit CSS turned off so it always used the plain default theme.

I noticed after a few minutes with a mobile browser on my ultra cheap (limited bandwidth) data plan, that Lemmy uses at least 10x more data transfer than Reddit does. I figure that is a combo of being more pic heavy and having a bunch of javascript bloat. I hope to switch to some kind of plain text client soon. Lemmy is great in many ways but uses way too much dysfunctional web 2.0 tech for my tastes.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i like the dataterm.digital design

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wait. All it takes is "it's round and not blue or grey"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That describes Reddit, back in the old days when it was good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

All these years, somehow, I've never seen new Reddit. No idea what it looks like or what it does.

Sometimes less is more when it comes to user interface.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well good, maybe they'll stay on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin's default UI is pretty chill

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people are why new paint colors are a major selling point for cars, or new default wallpapers are at the top of the changelist for an OS release. They are why "all new cars look the same" memes have to blank out the rims/hubcaps, because some people think different wheel decorations fundamentally change the aesthetics of the vehicle, and the aesthetics are a primary factor for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like to watch Brandon Butch on Youtube doing his thing for the beta releases for the new iOS 17 coming later in the year. I understand why he does, but every single time it's "Check out the new wallpapers!" like okay...? That's great, but definitely not a new OS feature 🙄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely multiple sites on the fediverse can use some UI/UX tweaks and a high level pass on user flow and functionality. Like I get it, people shouldn't flock here and expect it to be a Reddit clone, but if people want mass adoption (and you do because you want comment and engagement), there needs to be QOL improvements to the core experience.

Lots of devs going around though trying to fix things up. I'm looking into kbin myself, but give it a few months and everything will be in a much better shape

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

A lot of these people don't understand that Lemmy and other sites like this are made by coders and not UI people. It took me a while to get use to the stripes back nature of Lemmy but it makes sense when you start using it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is an actual use case for 'the customer is always right'. No matter how much you prefer the layout, there will be others that prefer something else. And if we want to attract more users, that's something that we'll need to consider.

By far the most off-putting thing about lemmy is how people think themselves too good to consider the preferences and experiences of the average user coming from reddit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The customer is always right, except in matters of taste" is the full quote I believe.

I love the homogenized look. If any chances are made I would hope they'd be optional so people who want the current look can keep it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

There is like 10 or so apps in development for Lemmy rn and I don‘t know if any for kbin, but I fully expect some of these apps to allow us to change themes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love the simplified interface. I do wish I could have a 'Front Page' view that creates an equivalent Community of all my subscriptions.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't put too much thought into it. Most of the shills are bots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still find it amusing I was banned from r/worldnews for a day for calling a russian shill a shill.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw a comment on a news youtube channel saying: "Nothing new in Russia". Got ridiculed for "generalising". This sort of patronising bs is so common in mainstream media. It is horrible and sabotaging any meaningful discussion and they are getting away with it.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I do use Lemmy because the whole thing with Reddit just sucked, but holy hell yeah, new Reddit looked so much better. It's not the world, I can get used to it and it's fine, but the preference is clear.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Reddit is ridiculously slow in the last several years. When I click CMD+F to start search I need to wait several seconds because of all the JavaScript running.

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