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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Like only the West has gone Fascist...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

In the Romanian presidential elections we just had, we have a fascist extreme right-wing candidate who got 1st place (note that we have a 2 round election system and this was only the first round). He appeared out of nowhere with a TikTok campaign, he didn't have a traditional ad campaign, he didn't participate in any debates, a lot of people who don't use TikTok haven't even heard about him. We will know in 2 weeks if we become fascist or not.

There are 2 problems. First is the hybrid war going on. The western world needs to do better. Ban TikTok and take drastic measures to limit the spread of misinformation and propaganda on social media.

The second big problem is that western leaders are ignoring the real problems affecting average people. The out of control immigration (the problem isn't with the people immigrating, but with a system unable to integrate them into the rest of the society), rising costs, unaffordable housing, huge tax burden are real problems that aren't being addressed. People are rightfully angry with the current leaders and are looking for alternatives. But most people aren't very smart or care enough about politics, so they are easy prey to propaganda and extremist groups that are calling out these problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

In my opinion, what stresses people is not rising costs etc..it is the eroding of quality of life that they are used to.

  • Rising costs are only a problem if wages are stagnant or as is often the case, falling in real terms.
  • Unaffordable housing is a major systemic issue, mainly being caused by inadequate supply. We have major issues in NZ with crazy house prices. The problem of high housing costs can't be solved quickly.
  • Huge tax burden is again not a problem if the social contract is being upheld. But as is often the case, the social contract is being eroded. We are paying the same tax as we were last year, but suddenly the services we receive for that money are reduced or removed.

For example in New Zealand, the previous government removed the co-payment on prescriptions from the pharmacy. The current government has brought it back, services have gotten worse over the time also...

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[–] stevedice 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Mexican here. Last month, a reporter known for being critical of the government was fired live in the middle of his segment. We're definitely going fascist.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is a strangely euro-centric viewing. It needs to include so many more places. Russia is a big one that's missing, for another example, and there are a ton more. We're in bad economic times, which is where Fascists thrive. On the good side, leftists can also take advantage of it to actually help people if they succeed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We're only in bad economic time because the wealthy elites and corporation gobbled up everything away from the public, which makes it even more sad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's bad for everyone but them. The reason doesn't really matter. It's the same as always. It's mostly the same conditions that led to the last rise in fascism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, the reason absolutely does matter. If we were all suffering because of a global drought, that would be entirely different than all of us starving and going homeless at the peak of human production.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sure, but the reason is always the same. It's rich people taking everything. There's way more than enough food and water for everyone, and that'll be true for a very long time.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The map is misleading. The other "non-West" countries are leading the pack. We humans, from space, must look like starlings.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

Among the ones going fascist New Zealand, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark…..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

technically , you are not going anywhere once you arrived at the destination

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That depends on how big your destination is. You haven't experienced all of Disney just because you drive in the front gate.

There's tons more fascism to experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

You're correct, it's innaccurate to not portray the entire world as descending into fascism, as has always been predicted on any path that embraces capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

They're not going, because they're already there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just more anti-western propaganda, welcome to Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

India and China are missing. Japan is pretty fascist too... at least when compared to European "fascist" countries marked in the map.

Apart from that... the amount of fascism is too damn high!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Is Japan "going" or just sitting roughly where it's been for decades? I don't know enough about Japanese politics but it doesn't seem from my perspective like it moves fast.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Australia is facist now?

Fuck guess I missed it, was outside all day too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eh, we find that out next year if the cookers are stupid enough to vote Dutto in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

It's not just the cookers. It's also the media illiterate and unengaged. I'm constantly shocked at how insular our population is. It feels like a ticking time bomb.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, they are.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

We just wanna be like everyone else, is that so wrong?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Canada's not fascist yet. We're electing our own Vance in a few months, so save your sympathy for us then.

Apparently the Corporation has been able to convince people - as they've tried from the start - that Hair Guy is somehow worse than them. They haven't actually put forth a platform with any numbers or promises on it, but "hair guy bad" has finally found an audience so dumb to swallow it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hear, hear. Let’s commit to fighting fascism as enthusiastically as Putin!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

So, not particularly effectively and using it as an increasingly threadbare excuse for maintaining the status quo?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks to putin and his psyops war

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