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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Says the guy that produces AND designed the cyber truck

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look. Just because people hope to not see it and actively avoid looking in the general direction of, does not make the cyber truck invisible.

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[–] [email protected] 294 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Guy whose cars run into stopped fire trucks thinks he’s an expert on computer vision.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Someone died because one of those cars thought the broadside of a white semi trailer was the sky and drove under it

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[–] Voroxpete 20 points 4 days ago

It is especially important to understand that Tesla's struggles with navigation are entirely a result of Elon refusing to equip them with LiDAR. This isn't some "The tech is really new and really complicated and we're still figuring it out" problem. There is a very good solution to most collision avoidance scenarios, but Elon refuses to let them use it because he's an idiot.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But was it a "stealthy" fire truck??

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[–] SomeAmateur 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Speaking of fire trucks has anyone here ever read the emergency response procedures for teslas in severe accidents? When I was a volunteer we gave it a look over.

If I remember right, Depending on the model they recommend up to 8,000 gallons (~30k liters) to keep an overheating battery's temp stable in case of fire or exposure to high heat. I'll link the resource page here.

Our engine holds 700 gallons (5.2k liters) and the typical tanker in our area holds 2,000 (7.5k liters)

That's a house fire level response for a single electric vehicle. Just getting that much water moved to a scene would be challenging. We have tankers, but how many city departments can move that much water? You don't see hydrants on highways. And foam is not effective like it is for normal car fires. The future will be interesting for firefighters.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I found a link on how the Austrian fire workeres handle this. The fire is extinguished first, then the remainders of the car are put into a special roll-off container (Abrollbehälter, AB) and driven to a gravel pit, where the container will be flooded with 21000 litres of water.

https://www.feuerwehrmagazin.de/nachrichten/news/elektroauto-in-flammen-einsatz-fuer-den-abrollbehaelter-e-brand-93315

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 days ago (6 children)

His fucking obsession with computer vision. He’s so convinced he’s right he forgot that clouds exist… and his cars plow straight into obstacles.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the "lidar is useless" guy whose cars are consistently crashing into things when visibility is bad is telling us that he can do the same thing with missile targeting systems... Sounds like a great idea

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] bestboyfriendintheworld 1 points 2 days ago

Wouldn’t matter for IR vision, which the F-35 already has.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And that a plane at altitude is too small for wide field cameras which means scanning the sky with narrow fov detectors.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And F-35s are really fast. By the time you recognize and can target it, it'll fly behind a cloud or something. So not only do you need to make a really fast rocket w/ vision-based AI integrated, it also needs to be able to detect said plane at great distances, as well as maneuver well enough to see it as it exits clouds and whatnot. That's a lot more complicated than slapping radar on something with heat tracking at close distances.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Let me guess, he's got an alternative to sell?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Sucking up to Putin. The next thing he will say is all 2 su57s in existence are much more advanced.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

He has Tesla's "Full Self Driving" system, which works with AI and cameras.
He probably wants to just upload his software to US fighter jets for, say, $20 million per unit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He has Tesla’s “Full Self Driving” system, which works

well there you've already told your first lie

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

He is uncomfortable when we are not about him

[–] Tar_alcaran 169 points 4 days ago (13 children)

For those doing the maths at home:

An F35 who obligingly flies top-towards-you (not exactly something you can do, but hey, maybe they're turning) is all of 10m tall.

An AIM-120C can very comfortably hit a target at 100km.

At that range, the F-35 takes up 26 arcseconds, or 0.007 degrees. That's roughly about the size of this period, at a distance of 3 meters away.

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Good luck spotting that in a sky of roughly the same colour, full of other objects.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can place cameras anywhere, they don't need to be right next to what is being targeted. Nearer ranges will allow AI to misidentify at much higher rates than max standoff ranges of an AIM-120C.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago

I don’t think you were getting enough credit for ‘misidentify’.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pffffffff

I can see that bright white dot against the dark mode background on my maximum brightness screen with ease! Therefore your argument is invalid!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jesus christ ... this dude is a fucking moron... if it WAS easy defense companies would be doing it already... and guess what, they aren't. Between this dickhead and Captain Brainworm the next four years are gonna SUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"It a shit design" is rich coming from the guy whos company can't get panels to line up on a car.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"It's a shit design" Says the man responsible for this:

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 4 days ago

Sir, our air defence is down!

Is it hackers?

No sir, it's cloudy.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If a fighter jet is within visual range of a camera, it's already too late. And that's if there aren't any clouds.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

your not thinking like a musk, not if the government pays the subscription and contract for his early warning camera drone balloon swarm thing or something something they could run on ketamine or something.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago
[–] starman2112 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Can't these things aerosolize you from beyond the fucking horizon? How helpful are those AI powered low light cameras when they're phase transitioned by a missile launched from a hundred miles away?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You'd need a camera network spanning the entire battlefield. And it'd need telephoto lenses at the very least, because stealth fighters are high and small. And it'd need to stay connected after an initial missile exchange.

I don't buy for a moment that nobody in the Pentagon has thought of this, and explained why it's not a dealbreaker in a classified report.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BVR and over the horizon radar has been around for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We're talking about stealth jets here, though...

They don't give much of a conventional radar return. Which is why Musk even brought up his definitely-new definitely-original idea.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 days ago (3 children)

someone tell ellen about beyond visual range

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That fucker really thinks he's so smart when all he does is constantly demonstrate what an idiot he is.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"laughably easy to take down fighter jets"

yeah all you have to do is ban the kid running the elon jet twitter. Seems easy enough to me.

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[–] Vendetta9076 71 points 4 days ago

Elon Musk is an idiot

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

He's just a dumb attention seeker. Of course he's gonna shit on the most over-engineered thing in existence. Tho the context of the shitty engineering his companies do makes this even funnier. What a loser.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Also... Fighters are fast, the point is you should fire the missile before you see it.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The f-35 is built for engagements outside the horizon, like, the target is blocked by the curvature of the earth.

Light sensitive cameras and rudimentary AI..

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In the long term maybe he has a point. In the short term the other guys are often using a radar built in 1985 and displaying to a ray tube.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

But also, how far can low light sensitive cameras see into the sky? Maybe a couple miles with some sort of telescopic optics? The F35 can attack from beyond visual range using its 100 mile range radar system.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Looks like being rich and surrounding yourself with yes-people is the #1 cause of sitting confidently at the top of the Dunning-Krueger curve.

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[–] jaemo 29 points 4 days ago

TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS, ELON.

IN A CAVE YOU FUCKING INBRED. A CAVE!!!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

"Théoden no longer recognizes friend from foe. Not even his own kin. Saruman has poisoned the mind of the king and claimed lordship over this land. My company are those loyal to Rohan. And for that, we are banished." - Èomer, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

He isn't smart. He's just a narcissist that lives deep in the warm embrace of Dunning-Kuger

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