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Former Ukrainian boxing champion Wladimir Klitschko accused podcaster Joe Rogan of “repeating Russian propaganda” after Rogan criticized U.S. military aid to Ukraine and suggested it could escalate into World War III.

Klitschko defended Ukraine’s resistance against Russia, highlighting the country’s fight for freedom and condemning Rogan’s remarks as aiding Putin’s agenda.

He invited Rogan to discuss their differences on the podcast “like free men.”

Rogan, who recently endorsed Donald Trump, called the war a “proxy war” and criticized Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to strike Russian soil with U.S.-supplied missiles.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hier kommt die Sonne.

Edit: No Rammstein fans here? I feel so alone now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I’m interested to see how JR responds. I heard the “Kamala was a chicken” line pre-election because she avoided him, for whatever reason. Now the tables have been turned! It’s a win-win for me because either I can sing out “Rogan is a chicken” or he actually has a discussion with Klitschko and many will have their positions challenged.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I would ppv to see this guy smash rogan's face.

With facts and logic. And his fists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Why is "proxy war" in scare quotes?

It's just a war where at least one of the belligerents is supported by at least one third party. Is there anyone who doubts that the Ukraine war meets any part of that definition?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because Ukraine isn't a proxy and neither is Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I get that people don't want to associate Ukraine with the US's horrible track record with proxy wars but the term is still just a dry political definition and the Ukraine war fits it perfectly.

It would stop being a proxy war if the US (and everyone else) cut off funding or if they actually engaged in hostilities. As long as the US (or any nation) aids Russia or Ukraine without directly participating, it's a proxy war because that's how proxy wars are defined.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don’t consider it a proxy war.

Ukraine isn’t a US proxy nor is Russia anyone’s proxy.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I thought they meant Vitali, but I didn't know his brother was a boxer too.

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