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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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The woman, Talisa Coombs, told Delaney she’d just gotten into what she alleged was a physical altercation with her granddaughter’s mother, Maria Pike, and called 911. Independence police’s response to that 911 call ended with the shooting death of Pike, 34, and her two month old daughter, Destinii Hope — who were identified Tuesday by authorities from the Police Involved Investigative Team, or PIIT, a team of eastern Jackson County detectives called in to investigate police shootings and use-of-force incidents.

The officer who fired his weapon was “a long-tenured veteran of law enforcement,” Dustman said. That officer and another two who were at the scene are on administrative leave.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article295483354.html

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I saw part of one US police training video, and I'm not surprised by this outcome. They are brainwashed to fear for themselves and believe everyone is trying to kill them. Doesn't justify the crime, but this could have been any other cop, and it isn't enough to hold that one cop accountable.

If this was a war, this would have been a warcrime and the guilt falls on not just the soldier who fired the shot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're also armed to the gills and like to pretend they're soldiers. They behave like an occupying army and treat everyone like a potential threat because that's what they think war is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

They do train with the Israeli army which polices the occupied West Bank.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that damn criminal baby pulled a submachine gun out of his pillow ... The officer just defended himself. God bless him and his family. <3

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What the hell is the context of that photo?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A prompt and tens of dollars of electricity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I thought so but the fingers were too good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

IDK I googled "baby with gun" and that was the one I clicked on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

The baby was resting, but the cops were illiterate as usual, so...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

the Police Involved Investigative Team, or PIIT, a team of eastern Jackson County detectives called in to investigate police shootings and use-of-force incidents.

They have a special task force of cops to investigate cop shootings in what looks like a single county.

Of course they do. Why am I surprised.

I guess this explains why they only solve just over a third of all violent crimes that happen in this country. They're too busy investigating themselves and finding nothing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

calling the cops on someone in America is like calling a personal death squad that sometimes might kill you instead

[–] [email protected] 207 points 1 week ago (6 children)

"On administrative leave", Jesus fucking christ, fire and prosecute those fuck heads. This is well beyond gross negligence.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sentencing guidelines should automatically double sentences for law enforcement and government officials, regardless of the crime.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

"Wrongful Death Offender List" should be a thing.

And it should be run by citizens.

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Greenfield believes police could have used different methods to de-escalate the situation.

No effing shit Sherlock

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 week ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 week ago

The officer who fired his weapon was “a long-tenured veteran of law enforcement,” Dustman said.

So who else has he murdered in cold blood?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My dad used to use this technique to settle disputes: "if you are gonna fight over it, neither of you can have it!"

Though I don't recall him ever shooting a baby in the face so maybe these cops need more training.

Or some fucking lead to their own foreheads.

Is that too far? No. No I don't think it is.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you explode a baby's head with a gun, let's just skip the trial and send 'em straight to prison for the rest of their life because there's nothing left for you in this world. Your humanity card has been withdrawn.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

if I had killed a little kid, accidentally or otherwise, I wouldn't have thought twice. I'd killed myself on the fucking spot. On the fucking spot. I would've stuck the gun in me mouth. On the fucking spot!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And the psyche of the cops is so bent that instead they go like "oh.. whoops. my bad, guys, my bad."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not at all, they go "who can I blame for this?", and then they set out to destroy that one's life or legacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Fuck. True enough

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They don't admit guilt. It is against Union rules. So forget about the "my bad".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah I was overly optimistic when writing that comment, mb

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

People like this deserve to be put in front of a firing squad with a target on their head to see if it explodes too, but I doubt it will because they probably have a thick skull.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Really? Prison wasn't what I was thinking. Why waste tax payer dollars?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The passive voice writing in this article is as usual playing defense for the police.

Independence police’s response to that 911 call ended with the shooting death of Pike, 34, and her two month old daughter, Destinii Hope. Let me rephrase this in a less passive way. The response to that 911 call from the independence police officer ended with him shooting Pike, 34 and her two month old daughter, Destinii Hope, to death.

I'm not implying this specific author or newspaper are writing in this style out of malice. I think this is part of a problem with the culture in journalism, because most articles on police violence are written this way.

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