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It's almost like he's intentionally doing exactly that:

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

"Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?" I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. "Who told you that?"

"I don't remember," I said.

"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.")

He can still be stopped. Americans:

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

People keep acting like this shit is new, all that's new is saying the quiet part out loud.

People didn't call Islamic believers of middle eastern descent "vermin" post-9/11 but they sure treated them as such.

This country has always been a racist shithole, the racists are just bold now.

Source: I grew up in "liberal" Washington State, in a town with lots of South American and Korean immigrant farm workers, and lots of local businesses with "English Only" signs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I was talking about this with my dad not long ago. My Bernie supporting liberal dad was talking about how "patriotic" the country was after 9/11 and how awful all these MAGA maniacs are today. I was in middle school when 9/11 happened, but I told him what I remembered from that time was how attacks on Jews tripled overnight, attacks on Blacks doubled, and attacks on Muslims were so bad that parents were asking their kids if they wanted to change their name to something more American sounding.

America has always been like this. They just hid it behind a veneer of "it's just a joke."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's actually quite disturbing that they are so bold now - it used to be in the 90s and early aughts at least that they were afraid to be upfront about it. Now they have no problems being openly racist, which feels like a throwback to the 50s or even earlier.

[–] Hideakikarate 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As someone from and living in Washington too, the liberal parts really depend on where you live. That's true for most states; cities tend to lean blue while rural tends to lean red. The liberal half of the state is the western side, the Seattle side. I'm from the eastern half. There's a reason friends say I live in "West Idaho" and there was (has? Is?) a plan to absorb us and eastern Oregon into Idaho (the south of the north).

[–] ballskicker 1 points 1 month ago

I grew up in the eastern half as well and they've talked about that merger for decades, seems it's little more than another talking point to keep people angry and give them another thing to be complain about regarding all those godless communist child-eating liberal coasties

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There’s a reason friends say I live in “West Idaho” and there was (has? Is?) a plan to absorb us and eastern Oregon into Idaho (the south of the north).

lmao "Cascadia" or was it "Columbia"

[–] ZombiFrancis 3 points 1 month ago

There is the State of Lincoln movement to create a new state out of eastern WA and surrounding territories.

There was also a Greater Idaho movement for absorbing some Oregon counties into Idaho.

I imagine there's some overlap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Shit, even saying the loud part ain't that new if you go back far enough, especially in the southern states.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

And its everywhere too. People calling russians "orcs" is a recent example. Ofcourse palestinians are called animals on the regular. So many offenders with this kind of language.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

That "Don't Be A Sucker" film made by the department of war in the 1940s is crazy to watch now. It's almost a 1 to 1 comparison between Trump and the bad guy. Though that film is a bit inaccurate about how religion responded to the nazis.

[–] iAmTheTot 15 points 1 month ago

"is"? How about, "has been for ten years"?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe all these undecided voters will realize who he is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ms. Jager has simply always thought of herself as a Republican, and she’s not prepared to stop thinking of herself that way

They value group identity and membership more than they should. Honestly as far as I'm concerned that's a form of stupid and moral failing. I bet a lot of them are also the kind who would say "if your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you jump too?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I don’t think many people get past MAGA. That’s enough for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

has brought dehumanizing language into American politics.

You mean in like 2015, right? It's approaching 10 years of this shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

and his fascist wannabe disciples are eating it up

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] Ghyste 4 points 1 month ago

This is not new. Why the hell is it being reported on as if it is?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

American politicians have used dehumanizing language from the jump. This country was built on slavery ffs. Even if we limit it to the 21st century presidents this isn't new. George Bush pulled this shit post 9/11. Hell, Biden has been and continues to dehumanize Palestinians