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"Boost" adds reputation. It's a kind of retweet.
"Downvote" removes reputation
"Upvote" does nothing. (edit : for reputation)
This is because previously the upvote was boost, they were switched around to be similar to other fediverse systems.
Dev mentioned in another thread that the reputation system should be changed to have up/down count instead of boost/down. But they have a lot to do right now so it might not be the most pressing issue...
Ah, okay that does make a lot of sense. Poor ernest must be getting swarmed by idiots like me asking for QOL changes. Thanks for the info.
-6 wrt ego hits was funny. Go check out mine.
Yikes you're at -51 !
Yeah I annoyed some shitlibs defending lemmy.ml and I can’t even create an account or read most posts there. I basically said we Americans are as propagandized probably as much as Red-leaning countries’ citizens.
Maybe don't call them shitlibs?
I didn’t until the prior post.
Either way you're being inflammatory by pointlessly generalizing political parties.
Boost should be removed entirely since it's nonsense to boost most things. E.g. even if I liked your comment here, why would I want to "retweet" that (and retweet into what even)? I just want to tell you that I liked it... with an upvote.
I think it's like for compatability with the microblogging side of the fediverse; so when someone on Mastodon follows you they can see what you've been "retweeting".
Also, you can microblog with your kbin account, so boosting with it actually does something.
I actually use 'boost' to save a thread or comment since there is not a save option.
As @HidingCat said it's to increase compatibility with the other app. If I'm following your Kbin account from my Mastodon one, when you boost something I'll see it pop up on my feed. I'd be in favour of keeping it but changing the label to something like "boost to fediverse" or "share with followers", or even just "share".
"share" is obvious in what it does, and efficient in terms of using space on the website. I like it.
For now I use it to save things, since there is no save function.
So it could probably be replaced by that.
But I think it's also here for compatibility with Mastodon...
"Upvote" does nothing
Not exactly - it's technically a "favorite" button. Since I learned exactly what you typed out, I've been using it as a way to save posts I want to read later. However it is correct that it does nothing for reputation.
It does, AFAIK affect the post ranking i.e. order of posts. So it's got that going for it - which is nice.
I'm playing with different fediverse at the moment as well as this one. That one doesn't do down votes. Didn't know it at the time when I signed up. The idea is appealing. The idea is that if you disagree with a comment, then you should interact and leave your own viewpoint. An anonymous, unthoughtful down vote does nothing that leads to a discussion. In reddit I'd see something down voted to oblivion because of a name brand mentioned but no discussion as to why people disagreed.
Thus far all of the fediverse has been positive comments 90% of the time.
That actually makes sense. Legit the reddit style voting system was often just mindless dopamine button pressing where just interacting in the group vote was enough to give you yours but not really encouraging anything beyond that. Iv been sitting here kinda missing it on squabble and now im more ok without.
I used to get so annoyed seeing mindless comments being endlessly reposted ('r/unexpectedoffice' was one that comes to mind, there are many more) and getting hundreds of upvotes. I'm hoping the system here discourages that sort of useless nonsense.
I hear what you're saying, but as a counterpoint: when I read something really fucking stupid (like someone just trolling and posting racial slurs) the appropriate response is actually to downvote & move on without engaging. Do not feed the trolls.
I don't like this, I feel like upvotes should add to reputation, not boosts. But that's just my opinion.
It's also the opinion of the devs. The fact that it's boosts and not upvotes is a bug, they'll get to fixing it, it's just not top priority right at the moment (since "reputation" doesn't actually do anything and is just a small number tucked away on your profile).
It's like talking to the police: the more you talk, the more you incriminate yourself. Never talk to the police.
Well i'm screwed then.. Cause i'm the worst kind of ex redditor. After like 10 years on that site I had maybe 2k post karma... 150k comment karma lol.
A modification of this is used when giving a deposition. You want to answer the question without giving any more information than necessary. If they ask about time you say it was after 9 in the morning. You don't say it was 9:15 because you'd just gotten your coffee and had checked your watch.
From what I understand, currently it works like this: boost = +1, downvote = -1, and upvotes do not feed into reputation.
And a boost is... what exactly? I feel like that system is going to lead to pretty much everyone being close to 0 or negative. Especially if downvotes federate between instances, as I don't believe boost is even an option for lemmy instances is it?
Upvote = I like this thread/post
Boost = everyone following me, here is a thing I think you should see
-ish. That's my understanding at the moment anyway
I guess I didn't know there was a following mechanism here. Good to know, thanks.
I don't know, I will boost your comment and see what happens... I hope it doesn't open a webcam discussion where we see each others, that would be awkward.
Edit: what is this madness? I see a +1 but with no way to remove it! It's forever. Be cautious!
The funniest part is my reputation actually went down to -7 now so.. I have no idea if boosting it even did anything.
Clicking on "boost" again should remove the boost. At least that works for me.
Even boosting your own comments seems to increase your reputation
Yeah, currently nothing stops a person from flooding self-boosted low-effort posts to rapidly raise their (apparent) reputation.
A single user can counter that 1-for-1 by downvoting every instance of it happening, but as "reduces" are visible the system gamer can retaliate in kind.
Two users (or one with two burner e-mails) in fact working together can currently destroy any user's points quite quickly beyond their ability to counter with self-boosts even if they wanted to.
Irrelevant, as reputation doesn't seem to do anything and we all know the system currently is flawed, but one feels we should not be able to affect our own, nor that of other users past a certain amount.
My reputation is 25 but I don’t really know why.
Seems like you posted or commented something that got boosted/"retweeted" at least 25 times then.
Good question. I'm -6, too (and should be positive).
Maybe it's hardcoded? 😁
I've heard it's going to be revised so I'm not paying attention to it.
I like the idea of spending upvotes to downvote
Also, I have a very fragile ego and my -6 reputation hurts a bit.
Good news! At the moment, reputation points are strictly calculated based on live data. In other words, if you delete the downvoted content, the negative points disappear.
The reputation system is awful. It's actually enough to get me to stop using the platform, because - unless you dig in to my comment history and see the upvotes - it looks like more people disagree with me than not.
Logically I know it's untrue (and it wouldn't matter if it were), but reddit gamified both the attempt to gain popularity AND the dissemination of it. Because of that, huge numbers of people treat internet points as an actual indication of a person's value. I left reddit a long time ago, and that was one of the major reasons.
I don't want to have my thoughts on a topic discounted because of a clerical error coupled with too much emphasis on counterfeit updoots. I especially don't want to become an outcast because of a flood of downvotes from people who can't tell the difference between "someone they disagree with" and "a bad person". We're building a new community, we should take this opportunity to build a better one.
Reputation will vary by which instance you're on because it's just a calculation of actions people have made, and those counts vary based on who subscribed to whom and when. If you're on instance B and instance A and C are talking to you, but defederated from each other, you could be +100 when looking from A and -100 when looking from C. So the score will be increasingly meaningless-looking the more you are federated.
You got +2 as of the timing of this comment, yay!
