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[–] shadowedcross 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't think this idea will see the light of day.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

They can stick that mirror where the sun don’t shine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Guess I'll die another day.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 6 months ago

~God~ ~dammit.~

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imagine a malicious person constantly aiming the light at at the house of someone they don’t like. Good thing it doesn’t seem to be feasible any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"I want a spot, but I want all of my sunlight focused onto a spot about a centimeter across. I'll give you the coordinates."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because the sun is not a point source but a disk half a degree across, you can’t focus the sun tighter than about a 1km spot from a mirror in low earth orbit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Okay but can we make that 1 km hot enough to burn everything inside of it?

For science of course.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Welp I hate to break it to you, but the Ruskies actually already tried this one back in the 90s, and I’m fairly certain the business idea is based directly on that concept.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In a tent would be even worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a lot of planning to get the person you don't like to live in a tent first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are ways.

None so far as I’m aware that are actually legal, mind. But why let that get in the way of one’s dastardly plans?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Possibly some type of incendiary device?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I was kind of thinking chemical. Unleash a pack of grumpy skunks and get them to spray everything.

Freakish, sure, but plausibly deniable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I was thinking more they were on a trip somewhere.

[–] DaCrazyJamez 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So if they over concentrate does this turn into an 'ant in a magnifying glass' situation?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Could it be used to break up protests?

[–] DaCrazyJamez 10 points 6 months ago

If by "break up" you mean on a molecular level, then yes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Theoretically, but I don't see protests or riots stopping because of light.. riots happen in the day, too, and the violent ones are going to be masked up so more light won't do anything to reveal their identity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It will be stopped if the protests are vaporized

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Was thinking the exact same thing. Also if this took off doesn't seem like it would help the global warming situation. "Let's add more energy to our planetary greenhouse!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Surely not. Mirrors are incapable of destruction. Why that would be dangerous! You could burn crops or boil away water reserves. Surely no corporation would so irresponsible!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

commoditize sunlight

Absolute ghouls

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's not like they are taking it away from you. Just selling you extra you don't need

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Isn't light pollution like that just illegal?

Edit: In the US, it is in some states, though not all. Haven't found a source for Europe yet.

https://www.ncsl.org/environment-and-natural-resources/states-shut-out-light-pollution

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I don't like it when companies mess with the sky. Don't fuck with my stars.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

FFS, we don't need more sun hitting our planet right now, we need less. Much less. Have the mirror reflect sunlight away from the planet. Then it'd be useful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

if someone stares directly at it will it hurt their eye?

[–] mindbleach 1 points 6 months ago

I keep vacillating on whether this makes any damn sense.

Here's the ISS transiting the moon, or possibly some lost footage from A New Hope. Just measuring that JPG, the moon's about 600px in diameter and the ISS is charitably 100 pixels, so it's like 1/3000th the scale, from Earth's perspective. Well - the moon is 400,000 times fainter than the sun.

The sun and the moon are roughly the same size, from Earth's perspective. So there's some arrangement where, from any point you can see an ISS-sized mirror in front of the moon, it'd be reflecting the sun. The moon's about a thousand times further from Earth than the ISS, and has a diameter of 3400 km, so if you draw those two triangles touching at the ISS, the lit-up area on Earth should be about 3.4 km in diameter.

It'd be one hundred times brighter than the full moon, but still one thousand times dimmer than daylight.

Huh.