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[–] gigachad 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate them all, but I hate some less like Motorola.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This feels like the correct answer.

Motorola and a couple others feel like at least they haven't jumped on the "let's charge them whatever the hell we can get away with" train. They're still relatively inexpensive and are essentially just as capable and nice as the Samsungs and the Apples of the world. Hell, I get far more comments on my Motorola Edge 2023 with it's textured faux leather back than others get with the latest Sammy or Apple identical square.

It feels like these smaller producers are able to take a few more risks in design.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t you only get three years of security updates with that phone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sadly yes. That's the drawback. But its balanced by the fact that its pretty easy to find good custom ROMs after it ends its software lifespan

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

For me it's Motorola because they are one of the few companies still iterating and throwing different weird designs at the wall to see what sticks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully they'll throw one at the wall with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard lol. Whoever does that again (that's not a niche device full of other issues) will get my money immediately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Same. The Motorola Droid 4 is my all time favorite phone, not viable as a modern daily driver, but damn do I miss being able to pop the keyboard out for longer messages, compose mostly coherent messages without looking, or just reclaim screen real estate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yes, to all of that. Also, I remember using my HTC TouchPro2 as a pocket SSH terminal to log in and check/fix random issues from anywhere. Sad that slide out keyboards on phones were a casualty of the thinness wars.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Agreed.

$300 for the g84, I'm quite happy. Dual sim Call recording Stereo speakers Headphone socket Oled display Sd card Fast charge 5Ah battery Thin and light. 5g

Only downside is mediocre camera. Ok if you don't need to zoom in.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I ordered a Fairphone 4 and had it shipped over to the US before they officially supported US carriers and got their reseller state side to fix some minor issues.

And its also cute I get to play the "Organic" card for a piece a tech. The device itself is good enough and with the repairability focus I can take my battery out as a party trick. (I have seriously done this, it works best for Iphone people)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Motorola without a doubt. One of the few companies that still believe that a high end phone doesn't need to cost 2000 dollars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I'm in camp moto as well. The other lovely thing is gestures. Shake your phone to put on the torch, turn it around and back twice to activate the camera.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Whichever ones allow bootloader unlocking, make it not a PITA to unlock, and are generally developer friendly (or at least not antagonistic to developers).

For a while that was Motorola, but I've read recently less models are allowed to be unlocked. OnePlus is also pretty good about unlocking the bootloader.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Samsung. Before I get dunked on let me explain. The Galaxy XCover 6 Pro is an industrial phone so it lacks a bunch of the standard bloat that comes with consumer grade equipment. It comes with 128GB onboard memory, 6GB RAM, SIM card slot, SD card slot, headphone jack, and even a removable battery! It definitely meets my need to carry around almost a TB of music and videos without needing to resort to streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

the xcover is a great phone. not the fastest or with the best camera, but the other features make it fantastic. it's also pseudo-ruggedized, I carry it without a case and it's held up great to a few typical drops and such

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Hell yes brother! Same. It's always nice when I'm on the bus or an airplane and I can just break out wired headphones. No worries about charging them, they just work!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gotte be Fairphone. I bought the FP5 when it was out pretty new from Murena. It came with a de-googled android rom called /e/ preinstalled. Couldn't be happier. I love the way you can just open the back and exchange any part with a simple phillips head screwdriver as well as exchangeable batteries. It's still splash resistant tho. I love knowing neither google nor apple are tracking me and supporting open source software monetarily. It works a bit different from stock android but its nice to use. I also like how they have long software support and care about where their parts are sourced. For their performance they might be a bit pricy but it aligns with my ideals so I support it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Google--not really a fan of the company, but the Pixels have been solid for me. The cameras have always been great, and weirdly, the bootloader has always been easy to unlock (I'm running LineageOS on my Pixel 7), so you can still get some modicum of privacy if you like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you run banking apps and stuff on that os?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My banking app is fine on it. It won't run Microsoft Authenticator, but if my company wants me available, they can buy me a separate phone.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I've always liked LG for phones. But they left the market. Now I'm in pixel which is... Well... It functions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

iPhone, though this site hates Apple. I had a HTC Dream, then the okay successor, then switched to and iPhone 5s when my partner got one and at the time it was the best phone to touch type on. Android got better but I quit all Google services and hardware.

I’ve had two iPhones that have lasted 5+ years. I’m current on a six year old XS max. I’m only upgrading this year because I want USB-C, a 120hz screen, and better low light pictures for cats.

The only thing I use iTunes for is one click encrypted incremental backups and I stand by it’s the best backup software for phones. When I get my new phone, I will plug it into my computer, click a button, and it will be exactly like my current phone. And that’s awesome.

I use windows for games and Linux for my servers, but I can’t say i don’t love my iPhonez.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m with you… people can hate all they want but my iphone really does “just work”.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Android people here often have a Spec Champion phone… and a Daily Driver one.

I only have a daily driver iPhone I bought 6 years ago and it can still daily drive me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Okay so not specifically to do with smartphones but Nokia was the most innovative and creative designer of cell phones altogether, until they made the unfortunate mistake of going all-in with Windows Phone with the Lumia. They should have been smart enough to see that like almost everything MS does, it was doomed from the start. It was their downfall :-( So sad because they made some of the most gorgeous phones in the world.

I have a modest collection of Nokia phones and I’d like one day to have one of everything they made.

Smartphones nowadays are just catalysts to exploitation. There’s no more innovation they’re just cramming more things they can claim as “features” without really making any substantial innovation anymore. There are a handful of gems here and there but they’re really spread evenly across the gamut of brands. Also there are so many more smartphones with cool designs and functionality that are just not available in the U.S.A. I don’t really understand why, other than the big names wanting to keep the market stuck to the same handful of gigantic bricks that refuse the idea of any flavor or character. Maybe they lobby to keep affordable and innovative designs out of the U.S. market so they can keep peddling their mediocrity forever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you had asked me a couple weeks ago, I would have said Unihertz. I loved my tiny little Jelly Star.

Unfortunately, the backlight for the screen died. It is still technically under warranty, but the options they gave me were 1) We'll ship you the part, and you can pay a local shop to put it in. 2) Pay to mail us the phone, and we'll fix it and get it back to you in the next month or two. or 3) Buy a replacement phone at a discount.

It irks me that the only option that won't cost me more money is having them ship me the part and trying to replace it myself.

I still like the little phone, but there is no way in hell I am giving that company any more of my money.

Sorry for the rant. To actually answer the question: I like my Google Phone. I don't love Google per se, but the phone itself works pretty well.

Edit: Since writing this, I received the replacement screen, and I will say that it was surprisingly easy to take apart and repair. I don't think most people already have the tools to do so, and I still don't think I should be responsible for the repair myself, but I do once again have a functional phone after spending 0 additional dollars. Also, I like the phone just a little bit more because it was substantially easier to take apart than all of the other phone's I've worked on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sony! They kept removable storage and headphone jacks, they just don't really advertise their Xperia phones in the US hence why nobody knows about them here.

They're just as advanced and high-end as their Samsung and Apple counterparts and I think they rock.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used to be a Samsung fan, but they started coming 75% full of bloatware, so I tried the first Pixel when it came out. I've bought nothing but Pixels since then.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Fairphone, as their hardware is comparable to other phones, while still supporting many custom ROMs. And they're very repairable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

BlackBerry’s last phone, the Passport.

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[–] Varyk 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

HTC 7: front facing speakers, microsd slot up to 2TB, 469 ppi , full brushed aluminum casing, smoooth OS, best phone i ever had,, especially at the time, blew everything else out of rhe water.

still can't believe big companies aren't making phones with front facing speakers.

[–] ShouldIHaveFun 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sony Xperia still have front facing speakers.

I really like that Sony didn't abandoned good features just to follow the hype. Some of those features are a headphone jack, an SD card and a small screen (big screens also available in the 1 series).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The xperia is more expensive then what I would usually spend on a phone, but it is probably the only phone that still has all those things you mentioned, which are nearly all dealbreakers for me. (Asus zenfone why did you have to become big :( )

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ooof, that's hard. There's no single favorite.

Xiaomi and similar (like Poco) I like because of their higher performance and usually including both headphone jack and IR blaster. Currently have X3 Pro.
What I do not like about them is the tracking. Ads I don't mind, honestly, but data collection kinda bothers me. You also need a Mi account to unlock the bootloader with a proprietary Xiaomi tool, plus there's a waiting period. Yuck. Also, the software feels like unfinished rushed project. I am pretty sure Alpha releases of most custom ROMs are more stable. Anyway, I kept the stock ROM on this one anyway.

Moving on...

Google. Yes, you read that right. They not only allow easy bootloader unlocking, but also relocking with a custom key, thus being the choice of Graphene OS.
What I outright hate is no headphone jack and Micro SD card slot. Otherwise, I'd just get one of the Pixels pretty damn quick.

Lastly...

Pine64. Easy to obtain spare parts, pogo pins for hardware expansion (like a keyboard or LoRa module), possibility to communicate directly with the modem over internal serial interface because that's possible too, built mainly for GNU+Linux distros.
But the whole idea is very much experimental.

Could have been Nokia up there if they kept it up with N900.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love my Librem 5. Never going back to Android.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

you daily drive it? nice

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[–] scottmeme 4 points 3 months ago

Google Pixel, not because the company is in my good standing or anything, just good hardware.

And if you buy unlocked you can just flash unless you want some of the first party pixel exclusives (which I use along with gpay)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Apple actually makes good hardware, believe it or not. The only real shortcomings of the iPhone are the software and the reparability. Say, hypothetically, you could load a custom ROM on an iPhone. It would be my favourite in that case.

We don't live in a good world, though, so it has to go to Google. It will continue to be Google until Apple fixes their business. I dislike the buttons being on one side, I dislike the gap between display and the border, and I dislike the cameras being covered when I try to get a grip on the back--but alternative OSes exist. The software is everything. I have far more utility here than on the more expensive iPhone.

Though, I have to say that I might genuinely consider an Xperia if they had alternative OSes. Good cameras, headphone jack, nice build.. it's a shame I can't put CalyxOS on one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Right now I really like my OnePlus 9, but if it has easy unlocking and LineageOS support my next phone will definitely be the HMD Skyline

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I'd guess OnePlus. Been a while since I bought my current Samsung, but I miss their better interface and battery saving often.

Though it truly is a shame that they started putting the fingerprint sensors under the screen, too. The meh sensor on the Samsung is possibly my biggest irritant. But reportedly at least the OnePlus one is better.

[–] Tazerface 3 points 3 months ago

Pixel for me because I can install GrapheneOS and relock the bootloader.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Samsung. I love the foldables but I buy the older refurbished ones. I'm not paying $2,000. for a fuckin phone!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

My go-to is to grab a used samsung galaxy from Ebay. Usually the best bang for the buck. The reasonably new ones have no headphone jack, but the solid dongles (not the flexible ones) work pretty well for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Essential RIP. The PH-1 was the best phone I've ever owned

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

BlackBerry, tho I jumped to that sinking ship pretty late with the Z10 and Z30, the BB OS10 was the best freaking OS I have ever witnessed and used on a smartphone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Pixels are nice because of their hardware secure element and great Verified boot support, even with a custom OS. And those new Pixel 9's are really fire 🔥

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

This comment will get down voted to absolute zero but: Samsung has amazing hardware and one of the worst software you could possibly put on a mobile device. Probably worst experience I've ever had using a mobile device. My experience was with S10.

Google has fantastic software and absolute shit hardware. Terrible battery life. Phone constantly lags and overheats from normal use. Terrible reception and non stop Bluetooth problems. Currently suffering with p7pro.

Oneplus was a fantastic company that created a phone that combined top of the line hardware with decent software at a very reasonable cost. Unfortunately now enshittification took over. Phones are overpriced, support is nonexistent and resale/trade in value is near zero. My experience was with Op8pro. Probably second best phone I've ever owned.

Other manufacturers like Sony, Asus, Nothing and Motorola are really a niche market now. They seem happy targeting a very narrow range of market. I've tried several phones from each brand, but never kept one longer than a week.

I'm sticking with pixel at the moment because software is so good it's actually able to make this steaming pile of shit hardware semi functional.

[–] rc__buggy 3 points 3 months ago

Google, unfortunately. Graphene sandboxes the google play services and Calyx spoofs it through microg.

I'd try a fairphone or a librem but I can replace my Pixel6 for $400 and have it within days if needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Huawei. Oppo is also very good

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