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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

A prolonged incursion into Russia could escalate the conflict, drawing in other nations and potentially leading to a catastrophic global confrontation.

Bit of a joke to write this, isn't it. The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over. Maybe Ukraine would leave the Russian territory if Russia leaves Ukrainian territory? Not sure that's on the table.

Edit: coming back to all the reactions. Just wow, hilarious.

Edit2: haha, they even come back to monitor edits. Fun times.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (24 children)

They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.

Ukraine could surrender at any time and this would all be over smuglord

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.

Are you fucking serious

What do you call expanding NATO? You think that isn't escalation because, what, "it's a defensive pact"? You really don't see how a country like Russia could view an encirclement of "defensive" pacts as aggressive, when it has constantly stated that Ukraine joining NATO is a red line?

You don't think NATO discussing sending NUKES TO UKRAINE, putting them within MINUTES OF MOSCOW, is in any way an escalation?

What the FUCK is wrong with you fucking people

NATO could have simply not attempted to expand, Ukraine could have simply honored the Minsk agreement and stopped genociding Russians in the Donbas, but you don't say shit like that, you think it's entirely on Russia. Brainwashed ass motherfucker

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (10 children)


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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Edit: coming back to all the reactions. Just wow, hilarious.

It's okay to admit you're incapable of grappling with reality and prefer to stay inside your NATO mind palace

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

looks like western sponsors of the war might have had enough of Zelensky

It is time for sober reflection. The Ukrainian people deserve leadership focused on practical, achievable objectives, not on grandstanding gestures. While courage and defiance are admirable, they must be tempered with strategic wisdom. The path to victory lies not in symbolic acts of defiance, but in the methodical, relentless pursuit of territorial liberation.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (24 children)

The path to victory lies not in symbolic acts of defiance, but in the methodical, relentless pursuit of territorial liberation.

That's just stupid. Are they really suggesting Ukraine should focus solely on grinding through fortified Russian defenses? War is more complicated than "just liberate the occupied territory". And while it's true that this counteroffensive has its risks. Everything they do or don't do has its risks.

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