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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Germans have specifically ruled out doing East Prussia again, for the same reason a recovering alcoholic won’t touch a drop of wine. Which leaves two options: Králiveč, the Czech exclave with a beer pipeline to the mainland*, or the more mundane option of partitioning it somehow between Poland and Lithuania.

* which should probably be named in honour of Immanuel Kant, a famous local reputed to have been a real pissant who was very rarely stable

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Germans are still suffering from having to integrate another failed quasi-soviet state more than 30 years later, so you couldn't pay them enough for taking Königsberg back.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Though having instantly given citizenship to thousands of Russians on the grounds that their ancestors around the time of Catherine the Great were German, and ending up with a monolingually Russophone voting bloc that gets its news from Russian state TV, did them no favours either. Jus sanguinis: not even once.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Interesting. I wonder how long you have to live in the former USSR to qualify.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a german, I heartily agree. Poland and or Czechia, you are welcome to any or all parts of it. Just don't fight over it :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

However, it would be somewhat entertaining to see the AfD melting down over getting it back. On the one hand, you have some of the old territory back, but on the other hand, there's so many foreigners getting your nationality now…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Given that AfD are Putinists and a significant proportion of the foreigners are Russian military personnel, I suspect they wouldn’t have a huge problem with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Heidegger was a boozy beggar and he could think him under the table. Should've been named for him.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone wants to be rid of Russia's influence there, but I don't think anyone actually wants to deal with the aftermath

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly that describes mainland Russia too.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yo! Poland! Do ~~your~~ the thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Polish thing is being split between Germany and Russia again

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey, shut your mouth or we’ll take Zaolzie again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You can have it. It's a blight on the land and I wouldn't even demand anything in return, not even closing down Turów or retreating from that random chapel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

And Austria, don't forget that they behave politically as still being a superpower. Just a village in Silesia will probably suffice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am not European enough to make any sense of this meme

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It implies that Kaliningrad is left undefended and up for the taking and that the surrounding countries are all looking at each other wondering which one of them is going to make a move on it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Germany and Czechia are not surrounding countries but Kaliningrad (then named Královec) was founded by Czech king Přemysl Otakar II. at the height of the Bohemian empire, and was later part of Prussia (basically Germany in the 1800s).

I don't think many Germans are joking about annexing Kaliningrad because of the WWII stigma but Czech redditors regularly invade r/Kaliningrad only to get promptly banned.

[–] verity_kindle 3 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They only need one successful invasion!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zipitydew 4 points 3 months ago

Tis a silly place

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anybody thought about asking the residents?

[–] eestileib 4 points 3 months ago

The residents are all smacked out and drooling into their methanol-laced vodka.

[–] where_am_i 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
  1. buy a geopolitical map and hang it above your desk
  2. join [email protected]
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
  1. I will not
  2. Done thank you
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Next week: Kaliningrad named back to its original name: Königsberg~~er~~

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Königsberg~~er~~

Now I'm hungry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[–] taladar 6 points 3 months ago

Königsberg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Surely nothing has ever gone wrong with Germany staking historical claims in the area

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s not a bad idea! Throw in Transnitia, North Georgia, Kursk and baby you got a stew going!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The thing about Kaliningrad is that Russia would have no way of reinforcing it. If Ukraine occupied it, they could only move there via boat, since it is surrounded by NATO countries. That makes it incredibly easy to defend, especially if they move some sea and air drones over there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I feel like Barbossa would be Germany cause he used to be the bad guy but now he's cool.