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Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris has narrowed her search for a vice presidential running mate to two finalists, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, three sources with knowledge of the matter said on Monday.

Harris, the U.S. vice president, is expected to announce her selection by Tuesday, ahead of her first scheduled public appearance with her running mate in the evening at Temple University in Philadelphia.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Walz has Bernie's seal of approval

That's all I need to know

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (12 children)

indeed. Bernie remains a reasonably clean and reasonably clear assessor/signaler. he makes complex political decisions that much easier for voters.

going to miss the golden yardstick of his judgment when he finally bows out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately we'll probably never see the likes of him again

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

AOC is an excellent standard bearer for the Bernie style progressives.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The bern-index

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

My friends in Minneapolis are pretty enamored with Walz. I don't think they'd be thrilled to have to share him haha

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Walz would be good, just please don't pick Shapiro. Can we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot for once? We've got a good thing going with Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Do you think Shapiro would lock down PA? I like Walz more from what I know, but seems MN is in the bag regardless. Can’t see the strategy side of his pick other than Walz seems to be the progressive favorite, and checks the old white male box.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

I don't think he does lock down PA, his approval is solid but nothing crazy. And on top of that he has so many vulnerabilities. School vouchers and protest response, on top of old quotes being dredged out and the potential cover-up of sexual misconduct of one of his aides.

I would have looked at Kelly for his cheap points to score with low information voters (combat decorated Navy captain, astronaut), but Walz is also incredibly popular and has a good track record.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard 20 points 3 months ago

Walz is more likely to deliver Wisconsin and maybe Michigan, which are also valuable. (And like the other commenter, I also question the ability of a VP pick to reliably deliver their home state.) Wisconsin seems to really like Walz as much as we do here in Minnesota. And I think he does well in Pennsylvania, Walz has the vibes of an older and more mellow version (but not as old as he looks, school lunchroom duty will age anyone) of what we all thought Fetterman would be. Walz is from a small town, is a former national guardsman and high school football coach, and iirc used to enjoy hunting. He appeals to working class, blue collar voters in ways very few other Democrats can. He's also involved with the national party (possibly the convention), someone on TikTok knew something was up with Biden just before he dropped out because Walz flew to DC to meet with Biden. The establishment Democrats like him and so do the progressives - he's exactly who we need right now.

Also, he's the reason we're all calling Republicans ​weird.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

She going choose Shapiro because DNC tells her too and fucking hurt her campaign. Goddammit for once do the right thing here Shaprio is a horrible choice that fucking none of us want. Hence why they pick him. Dumb fucking Democrats hate them.

[–] eestileib 14 points 3 months ago

There are some impressively out of touch people making the calls in the democratic party.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think "running mate from state X will lock down state X" deserves as much credence as political parties give it in general.

[–] Kecessa 5 points 3 months ago

Not based on historical data

[–] winterayars 13 points 3 months ago

I don't think Shapiro would lock PA. I think it's pretty likely she could pick him and lose the state or not pick him and win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Nah, I highly doubt him being the VP pick could win the state alone. I think that Waltz is a better pick as a whole, including PA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

PA is already pretty firmly blue-purple. WI is more an uncertain purple.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s gotta be Walz. Shapiro would be a slap in the face to the Arab-American community, which we all very much need the support of if we want to prevent the fascists from winning the presidency.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 24 points 3 months ago

Walz to win; or Shapiro to lock up at AIPAC money.

Hmm.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wanted Kelly, but I'd be pretty happy with Walz. Shapiro would just take the wind out of the sails.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Harris closed out her search by interviewing three top candidates - Walz, Shapiro and U.S. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona - at her Naval Observatory residence on Sunday, the sources said.

Kelly caused a stir on Sunday night when he posted on X "Now, my mission is serving Arizonans," which was interpreted as a sign he was no longer in the running. He deleted the post and replaced it with "I've learned that when your country asks you to serve, you always answer the call."

Sounds like nothing's official yet about eliminating Kelly. I think he'd be the best choice as well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I really like Kelly, too. I think there was just a lot of risk involved with pulling an incumbent Democratic Senator in a swing state that could potentially give an extra seat to the Republicans in an election year that's already difficult for the Democrats on the Senate side.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

And the more I read the more fired up I get. I have liked Walz for a while but just been spending more time reading deeper into his background, experience, and policy positions. Feels like he'll really help drive the campaign and align to a lot of the wider progressive objectives.

[–] eestileib 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's going to be fucking Josh Shapiro. sigh

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She already said the announcement will take place in Philly, so ... 😮‍💨

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Democrat hacks will push Shapiro because its the worst choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

She chose Walz

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

For what it's worth, (and if I'm not mistaken) Pelosi also endorsed Walz.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For those like me, who had never heard of Tim Walz until recently, here's an August 2, 2024 episode of the Ezra Klein podcast with an interview: https://pod.link/1548604447

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Walz has been amazing and the amount of progressive laws that have been passed in MN in the past two years with a 1 vote majority in the state house is ridiculous. This doesn't even scratch the surface but

  1. Recreational weed
  2. Mandatory sick time accrual -- my company had to give those of us in MN one or two additional sick days,
  3. Free school lunches
  4. Banning of non-competes (still important due to the recent supreme court ruling that limits the ability of federal agencies to set regulations)
  5. Reproductive rights

https://mn.gov/governor/accomplishments/accomplishments.jsp

We're certainly going to miss him as governor but he will be an amazing VP.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I would'd have a problem with either. But "Harris/Shapiro" sounds like a personal injury law firm, while "Harris/Walz" sounds like some political consultant firm.

Either is better than "Trump/Vance", which just sounds weird.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

On the first I thought Christoph Waltz. Even if not possible, this would be a magnificent choice! 🦷

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