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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I don't at all understand churches advertising.. Maybe because of my European ass? To my knowledge churches are not about profit? I get that you want to announce your service times and such, but put that in a small column in a newspaper for the ones interested or something lol

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In America, all things are about profit.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In Europe we are sadly switching to that attitude too.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

USA gotta export its worse ideas abroad, after all. For-profit churches, flat earth, antivaxx

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

USA gotta export its worse ideas abroad, after all. For-profit churches, flat earth, antivaxx

More like someone in Europe realizing that they could import something from America and it'd catch on like an invasive plant species with no local ecological resistance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

America didn't invent any of that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK, they did invent the modern flat-Earthism. Europe designed a straw-men to use as racist propaganda to say the people on their colonies are stupid, but it was a group at the US that said "yes, that's us, and we are proud of it!"

Antivax was invented everywhere, again and again, so,maybe they get a half point for it too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

In the modern era, the pseudoscientific belief in a flat Earth originated with the English writer Samuel Rowbotham with the 1849 pamphlet Zetetic Astronomy. Lady Elizabeth Blount established the Universal Zetetic Society in 1893, which published journals. In 1956, Samuel Shenton set up the International Flat Earth Research Society, better known as the "Flat Earth Society" from Dover, England, as a direct descendant of the Universal Zetetic Society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Where do you think we got the idea from?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's an ad for Mormons. The Mormons are a corporation disguised as a church that has gained extreme wealth. They own a huge real estate empire, universities, and farms plus over a hundred billion in one investment fund.

Thy have been caught numerous times breaking all sorts of financial laws but because of their status as a church it's hidden.

For the Mormons it's all about profit and hoarding wealth.

[–] pumpkinseedoil 13 points 3 months ago

A religion of hoarding money. It doesn't get any more American than that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

In NZ, churches don't have to pay tax. This makes them extremely attractive to people with no skills who want to obtain wealth

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago

American megachurches are for-profit multimedia empires, doomsday cults, illegal political influence organizations, human trafficking rings, and shields for those who commit sex crimes, in an expensive, tailored trenchcoat.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The church in the ad is particularly harmful. I had to fight to get out of it, and only after they took 10% of my income for years and trafficked me. They want money, power, and control, not increased numbers at their services.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

and trafficked me

There's a serious "wait, what?!?" here. The church sells slaves?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was threatened by local leaders and family if I didn't go on a 2 year mission in another country, then when I got there, they:

  • took my passport immediately and locked it in a building I couldn't access
  • required 12 to 16 hours of work a day, with discipline if productivity dropped
  • refused to provide adequate food or medical care
  • restricted my communication with my family
  • assigned me a companion to surveil me 24/7 and report disobedience to leadership (and assigned me to surveil someone else)
  • disciplined me when I was physically and sexually assaulted by other missionaries

I didn't want to call it trafficking for a long time. I figured maybe God just had a weird way of doing things. But my spouse works at a recovery center for survivors of violence (including trafficking) and helped me realize that's what it was.

A pretty big misconception is that trafficking has to look like selling slaves, and I agree that's an egregious thing, but it can be a lot more broad than that.

There are a lot of resources at https://humantraffickinghotline.org/en if you're curious. My mission experience checked just about every box for labor trafficking, and I've heard very similar stories from a lot of other people who have been missionaries.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Yep, sounds like slavery. Taking your passport away would already be enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Were you mormon? Or is this more widespread than I thought?

If you are talking about the mormon church, and if what I've heard is correct, you missed an added point that makes it look all the worse. That you had to pay for the right to let them do that to you. Normally in a labour trafficking situation you'd at least be expecting some sort of compensation, even if it's grossly inadequate and ends up largely back in the hands of the traffickers as they charge for accommodation and transport. But from what I've heard, mormons do the labour entirely for free, and pay a large amount for the "honour".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I was mormon. Thankfully my parents paid to traffic me, so I could afford to go to college and cut them off relatively soon after I got home.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The gods demand more believers to increase their mana.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not everything is so Black & White ;)

[–] QuantumSparkles 11 points 3 months ago

They want to convince you to come to their church so you can donate to their church which is totally not profit it is for the lord trust me it’s not sweet delicious tax-exempt profit mmmm

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I imagine it’s a form of evangelism. Like, if they can convince someone to attend church from the ad then that is the same as saving their soul and gets them points in God’s book (or so they tell people when in reality money is the goal).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

in America everything is about profit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh my sweet child...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago

Boomers are dying off, gotta get those numbers back up somehow.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I get it, I giggled but I cringed at one of these girls finding their image used this way on the internet

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I can't say I understand what's written there at all, but if there are churos, I'm in!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I didn't get it

[–] ayyy -3 points 3 months ago

Hey OP equating women just existing to pornography is pretty church-y, gross, and pathetic.