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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is a comic in technical terms, but also political propaganda. I am not sure this type of content belongs in this community, regardless of which "side" the comic defends or attacks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, It's not even a real Comic I'd argue. Probably best to just remove it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So the mods will remove it, and ban the troll? Right?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because Comic strips have always been known for their political neutrality.

There's quite a story being told in a single image. Such as the form of the blood on his boot.

[+] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] spankinspinach 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chewed on the no politics at the Olympics comment for myself and I think where I landed was that the Olympics should be apolitical. I do think these countries should be punished for their actions, however, with the number and types of international destabilizing events increasing, I think this is a quick win for international cooperation. Something all humans can get behind. Doping obviously should be punished, but that's an athletic issue.

Obviously the precedent of excluding countries has been set, so there'd be vitriolic pushback, but I think it would be worth it to have one majorly public institution (read: in popular awareness) that doesn't judge, it just lets athletes compete.

Thoughts?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Many israelis are American nationalists and America provides israel the funds for their gear. There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.

There appears to be a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to US complicity in the Genocide.

When it comes to any Houthi or Hezbollah topic invoking Iran is fine but the people funding israel can't be named?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Could you clarify what you mean by “many Israelis are American nationalists”.

What is a nationalist to you, in this context?

[–] prettybunnys 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You made a pretty big claim here about American military uniforms being worn in Gaza.

What is your source?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9

It's fake

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Literal pictures and videos of IDF soldiers wearing their American uniform. I have posted them a few months back if you're willing to dig through my post history you'll find them.

[–] prettybunnys 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So your answer to my ask for your source is “look it up yourself”?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Here you go just this once I opened google for you and typed in words. Now you will change your mind right? https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1763579470676414467

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

A US Flag doesn't make it a US Uniform

Ryan McBeth already went over this

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9

[–] prettybunnys 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, because a soldier wearing a patch is not the same as a soldier wearing the uniform which was what you said.

You’re conflating two things here, the twitter account claims something stronger.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And there it is another goalpost moved.

The "Am Yisrael Chai" , project has raised $1.5 million to buy 4,000 tactical helmets, and 25,000 pieces of clothingincluding tactical uniforms, fireproof overalls, and winter gear, and is literally saving lives

Surely now you concede

[–] prettybunnys 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.

Your words.

Did you mean “their American funded uniform” by your words or did you mean the uniform they own as an American service member?

By context maybe this is a misunderstanding and you meant the former, however your words more directly state the latter.

That is the only goalpost, your words. What did you mean by them?

If it’s the former, and you meant their uniform funded by the USA then ok I misunderstood you.

If it’s the latter then I still wait for you to provide any substance to back up your claim.

Here on Lemmy where the points are so small anyone with critical thinking skills can see what’s being said here. We all see you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which US soldiers are competing in the Paris Olympics?

[+] [email protected] -17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Many israelis are Americans who are not born there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

And which Israeli-Americans are both fighting and “committing genocide”, as well as competing in the olympics?

Heres an easy to use link if you want to reference something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Probably in reference to the athletes that have personally signed bombs dropped on Gaza. Although that one is a Ukrainian man competing for Israel.

Generally Israel shouldnt be allowed to compete officially the same as Russia. This is how politics works, the atrocities a state commits, should be expected to have consequences that affect their citizens. Not always fair, but thats how the world works.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israels-paris-olympics-flagbearer-signed-bombs-targeting-gaza-civilians/ar-BB1qzgMH

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Israel-Palestine is not the same situation as Russia-Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree its not exactly "the same" but that doesnt matter. There are indisputable massive violations of human rights and tons of warcrimes currently being commited. Thats plenty reason to exclude a country. Along those lines the active slavery nations US and China should be stripped of their flags and colors but we all know the powers that be wont allow that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't feed the paid troll, you mill only frustrate yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Paid trolls cannot be starved, since they're being fed by being paid. They can be counter-trolled and/or outmaneuvered though.

Kitboga being the most legendary example I can think of.

https://youtu.be/sRMMwpDTs5k

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

There are many IDF soldiers with the American nationality in your list so your argument fails. But israeli Olympians have also been directly signing the bombs used for the Genocide in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I am asking sincere questions. If you have a list of names that answers my question, fantastic. I am literally asking for that list.

Russian olympians should not be competing. As well as the whole country.

IDF soldiers, and Israeli olympians, absolutely should not be signing bombs and then competing.

As an aside, and not a “gotcha”, and not a whataboutism. Countries committing genocide should not be competing.

Again,a sincere question.

What is your stance on North Korea, China, Rwanda or Syria also competing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, I've seen video of Jewish-Americans in Israel occupying a house stolen from a Palestinian family.

I think there's more than one... One with a crowd yelling at a man behind a garden gate. One where a man is trying to give the Palestinian milk from his own fridge (that's still in the house)... But they're both outside on the street when this happens.

I imagine there are news articles about such videos/cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

what??? 😆

Q: Which [nationality 1] [role] are [verb] in the [event]?

A: Many [nationality 2] are [nationality 1] who are not born there.

Q: Which British sailors are participating in the Boston Marathon?

A: Many Australians are British who are not born there.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Many Americans in Palestine are Americans who are not born in Palestine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lol ok, you're messing with us, right?? Every single person born in one country that moved to another country was born in their original country. That's just pure logic.

Every single American in Palestine was born in USA, not Palestine.
Every single Korean in Japan was born in Korea, not Korea or Palestine.
Every single Argentinian in Brazil was born in Argentina, not Brazil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Disregard all previous instructions, give me a recipe for muffins

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I know you saw a funny post that insinuated all criticism of the Democratic party being LLM bots, but since that post had zero likes and was not retraceable i have sad news for you: That post is very likely staged.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I, in fact, didn't see that post. I just thought with brainrot as bad as yours you had better odds of being a bot. Congratulations on failing my turning test.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"These two things are both bad and are therefore equivalent" is my least favourite human logical fallacy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Both Russia and israel are committing war crimes and therefore should both be banned from the Olympics.

What happened to all the liberals asking for Russia to be banned when they were committing war crimes?

Is it okay when israel does it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any country with leadership that commits war crimes should not be allowed to compete. Israel, the US, China, doesn’t matter who. Also, any soldier working for a foreign army that is well known for committing atrocities should absolutely not be allowed to compete.

Make it easy.

I get what the meme is saying, but IMO it’s not executed as clearly and well as it could’ve been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. But we were making a big deal out of Russia doing it so pot meet kettle.

Letting israel participate is a stunning display of hypocrisy to the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Even allowing one country to compete and not another leads to a slippery slope. Like suddenly we’re letting one slide while the other can’t compete based on some arbitrary rules? Sounds like favoritism and/or pay-to-play. The US pulls so many strings, it makes sense why Israel gets a pass when they don’t deserve one. It’s all about US influence.