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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I have a Windows partition on my workstation. It serves really two purposes, some manufacturers issue firmware upgrades that you can only install from Windows and games. Recently that partition got scribbled and I had to re-install. The most recent Windows ISO would NOT install for me from a USB, I HAD to burn a double sided DVD to get it to install. Then within two weeks of installation it runs into an update that keeps failing. Gotta fucking love it. And this is Win10, I am not ever upgrading to Win11.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's definitely more frustrating. I've had a similar experience trying to help people with their Windows PCs. Thankfully I've managed to convince a few to switch to Linux Mint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Builds New PC -> Can't even start Steam

Somehow I don't think the problem is Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are exactly 2 things keeping me from switching to Linux full time.

Microsoft Office (I am aware of open/LibreOffice and the web version, but all are still lacking some feature or another)

Parsec hosting (I started doing weekly remote movie nights over the pandemic and parsec is basically the perfect drop-in solution for that)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even just installing windows is pretty bad. They include jack shit for default wifi drivers and won't let you complete the installation without an internet connection (and a stupid Microsoft account to complete their data mining 1984 tracking system) unless you use secret command line bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think windows 11 wouldn't be nearly as bad if it didn't force an online account on you. Yes, I know there are sometimes ways around it, but they are not for the average user to pull off. Especially the OEM laptops that ship win11 s-mode, where if it's not the right patch, you gotta do bios edits, registry edits.

[–] Bobert 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally two clicks to make a local account instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no it's not. Maybe with a standalone iso. But an out of box machine from the majore OEMs like Dell and HP, it's not. Even if you never connect it to the Internet it can be nearly impossible to get around.

[–] Bobert 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just not true to my personal experience with over 200 devices from Dell and Lenovo. Especially concerning the not connecting to internet. That is literally the only step you need to take if the OEM install wants to force a MS account to be able to install local accounts. "Nearly impossible" is absolute hyperbole and you know it.

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