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[–] ArbitraryValue 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I eventually got to create a local account on my laptop by putting it into airplane mode using the keyboard shortcut. Why is Microsoft so desperate to force even power users to use an online account?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Control and telemetry. You’re the “coppertop” putting $ back into Microsoft.

[–] ArbitraryValue 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get that that's why they want ordinary users to create online accounts but irritating the small but vocal number of power users that this change affects seems like it costs more in goodwill than it gains in data.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’ll offer this as a power user: I do everything I can to avoid feeding back info to the corporations. I shut off telemetry, usage stats, block ads, actively monitor updates for undesirable changes, don’t enable quick start or other background software, don’t enable a lot of startup software or processes….etc etc. basically to prevent them looking over my shoulder as much as possible.

So if you’re that kind of power user it actually works against Microsoft’s interest to allow you to opt out, you’re already “costing” them lost opportunity to make money.

And of course we have to deal with the fact that getting the software “free” means you don’t own it and have to play by their rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Power users are more useful from a telemetry perspective. Chances are I can predict the basic grandma and grandpa use patterns, but power users represent interesting and novel use cases, feature ideas, etc.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Install windows normal (disconnect ethernet if you're on desktop and see if that helps) then use Chris's debloat tool to create a microwinodows iso and reinstall. It even lets you remove defender if you wanted to. I did that and also stopped all the feature updates so it doesn't mess with my Linux drive. Just let security updates through. This all can be done through that one script I linked above.

[–] zaph 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thumbnail says "ris tit" and makes me like Chris Titus even more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I intend to make Win10 the last windows I use

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I imagine Windows Pro licenses probably still let you create a local account to address the business-need-air-gap market. But I imagine they'll come for those, too, eventually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Guess I will keep my Windows 11 installer ISO around and won't download the updated one.

[–] Titou -3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Just use temporary email or email aliases

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And if someone else registers your e-mail address later, can they take over your account?

[–] Titou 1 points 5 months ago

Im a Kolab Now user, somebody else can't take a aliase im currently using, and even if i stop using it they can't see the email history because aliases aren't new email, it's just fowarding to your actual email.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

"Just accept corporate overreach"

No thanks. Give an inch and they'll take a mile every time.

[–] blargbluuk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's not just an email, they want you to have a whole microsoft account to tie all your stuff to.

[–] Titou 1 points 5 months ago

that's what temp email or aliases are used for, but i guess knowing microsoft they'll ask you excessive amount of verification everyday so it's probably useless in that case.